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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:08 AM
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Yesterday my new starter went in successfully. Today I started the truck once now it won’t turn on. The starter makes a loud noise but dosent fire the bendix to engage the flywheel. It has 12.8 to the starter. Just tried to start it by placing the solenoid wire to the battery terminal as I be done in the past with the same result.
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:22 AM
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What starter did you put in? Seems it may have either gave up the ghost already… hope not though
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:24 AM
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Source/brand of the starter? My experience with parts store starters, alternators, steering gears, coolant pumps, etc is less than miserable.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:29 AM
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Get a Bosch or a Denso. They never let you down.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:33 AM
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:44 AM
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Is the ring gear all chewed up? I've seen that on cars that had a bad starter and multiple attempts at starting the engine resulted in a few inches of ring gear teeth were missing. Only cure after that is remove transmission and replace ring gear.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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Other than that, carry a breaker bar to turn the engine over a few degrees to get the bad part of the ring gear away from the starter bendix and then the starter will engage with the good teeth.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 09:53 AM
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I popped it off again and saw the ring gear was chewed up. The engine started right up after rotating it.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 10:03 AM
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You probably need to check the trigger wire for voltage while the ignition is engaged. You my not be getting full voltage to activate the solenoid . That or the battery cables are full of corrosion and not allowing enough current through to do the work. Have you tried jumping the truck? I had a Chevy once upon a time that the cables corroded all the way through and would start cold but not hot. Hook up jumper cables and it would start hot.


Edit: Mystery solved while I hunt and pecked it appears. Good call Kwik.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 10:56 AM
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Ouch that sucks. I'd rather had to buy another new starter then do that. Sorry man.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 11:21 AM
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Is the ring gear all chewed up? I've seen that on cars that had a bad starter and multiple attempts at starting the engine resulted in a few inches of ring gear teeth were missing. Only cure after that is remove transmission and replace ring gear.
Yep. A v-8 will chew off teeth every 90 degrees for two reasons: 1. They're where the engine stops rotating after shut-off due to compression strokes, and 2. They're where most of the strain is while cranking due to compression.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 02:22 PM
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I popped it off again and saw the ring gear was chewed up. The engine started right up after rotating it.
There's your problem. My condolences to you, but the transmission has to come out now.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 05:25 PM
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Yep. A v-8 will chew off teeth every 90 degrees for two reasons: 1. They're where the engine stops rotating after shut-off due to compression strokes, and 2. They're where most of the strain is while cranking due to compression.
Might be a dumb question, but do inline-6 motors have this issue as well, or not so much?
 
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