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I have enjoyed building and then driving my '79 Super Cab, but the time has come to send it down the road. I am selling off a few "Toys" and sadly this is going to be one of them. Hard part is, putting a fair value on it. There really aren't too many comps out there to value it off so I am asking for opinions.
You can look up the thread I started when I was building it, but here are some details. It's a 79 F250 Super Cab with 37 inch tires on 17" Ultra Wheels. I swapped a 12 valve from an 89 D350 and used the 727 trans also. To get less revs and more road speed I put a Gear Vendors O/D unit in there as well. I bought an Advanced Adapter coupling to mate the Ford NP205 to the trans and it has Dana 60's for both diffs. New 3.55's were installed and a Tru Trac locker in the rear. There are a couple of "pesky" leaks that will need to be addressed, but it's not anything catastrophic. The truck is going to need paint to make it "perfect", but I kinda like the patina and weathered look. It's a daily driver when it's not winter up here, so I really don't want show quality paint anyway.
I've done a ton to this truck and I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff. It's a real cool piece and get thumbs up all the time because you just don't see stuff like this on the road every day. Your opinions are greatly appreciated and if there is anyone who may be interested...shoot me an eMail at cdip@verizon.net.
Here is a pic right after the swap when it was still on 16.5" military rubber. What a difference the Dick Cepek Fun Country rubber made!!!!!
My opinion, just like you asked for.
High end value = $10k
Low end value = $8k
The recession is taking hold and very few people have $10k of disposable cash laying around.
Some will see your vehicle as a Frankintruck. Not something that can be dropped off at a Ford dealer to get repaired.
An average mechanic at a local repair shop will take 8 hours figuring out what he is working on.
Insurance... doubtful full coverage can be put on a vehicle like this.
Honestly a guy who wants a Cummin's powered Ford will just build his own... Or, buy a Dodge.
A buyer with $1k cash will go to a car lot and let the salesman finance the balance and drive off with a $10k truck.
JMHO
There are some out there will put 25-30K for it, it's nice and is very nicely appointed. If it were me buying at my age with no one to leave it to, no kids wanting to drive it, just me ... I'd likely go even higher as a "personal toy" for my enjoyment only. There are others whom would put maybe 8K on it because they feel limited or they maybe look at possible returns down the road. Good luck "up there". I'm not rich, but if I were looking for a late model driver, considering prices, this would catch my eye.
This will be a tough one. As you said no comps out there. The buying pool will be very small due to the heavy invasive mods, and usually a small buying pool does not help value. I don't think anyone would disagree that if the truck had a 460 the buying pool would be huge and it would pretty much sell itself. Also a factor is if you want a quick sale or willing to wait months. But if you happen to find someone wanting to do that same conversion, it would be a very attractive purchase. Finding that person could be challenging. Maybe post some pics of the interior, engine, and underside. A rust free body is going to be a plus. The paint looks good enough. If its in great shape mechanically, starts, drives and stops tight, that will help.
Often times how well a vehicle is marketed is part of the equation to maximize value or perhaps in some cases even sell it at all. Advertising on ebay or Hemmings will at least help you determine how much interest there is on a national level. You can try locally and see what happens. You can always come down in price if there doesn't seem to be much interest.
You are looking for a rich Daddy's boy that thinks it cool.JMO No doubt it took a lot of money and hard work. Old trucks are a hobby and like most hobbies a money pit. Personally if I see swapped to a cummins, I just scroll or keep looking. No hate involved. I wish you luck.
Hagerty or other specialized insurance firms are in the business of valuing collectable vehicles. They follow sales, especially auctions, so will have a data based opinion. Then there are commission-based firms that will handle promotion and sale for you. They will highball you to get the listing and then chisel the price down to realistic levels as time goes by.
Check out the Haggerty web site first. They have a lookup system that uses very well defined levels of condition (concours down to driver or something like that).
I don't think anyone would disagree that if the truck had a 460 the buying pool would be huge and it would pretty much sell itself. .
Not disagreeing, I know you're right, but there are a lot of guys whose eyes don't mist over seeing those numbers "4 6 0" strung together ... but who would jump on a 12v conversion. My BIL has aD3500 with 12 valve and 727, it pulls great ... I just wouldn't have it for my uses because it's a fat butted dually and he lives in an isolated corner of a narrow road infested county. If there were two of those exact same trucks, side by side, same price, same GV augmented driveline, one a Cummins 12 valve/A727, one a Ford 460/C6, it would be a mighty tough choice. Likely I'd take the 460 too, because it's gas, and I love V8s ... but I'd wonder if I did right for a long time.
Thanks for all of the replies, and I appreciate all of the input. I will get more pics but it is tucked away in my garage for the winter. There is some interest in it locally but I don't want to give it away. As I expected...the values are all over the place. It's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I don't think I'm far off with my guess given what you guys have put out there...now it comes down to advertising if the local guy doesn't want it.
I will get more pics, just to show you guys what I built. P.S. If it doesn't go for reasonable $$$ it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to keep it!!!!!
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