hundreds? That's it? Out of millions sold?

This problem is a very small percentage of trucks on the road. Now I haven't had my Ford long, but on my Rams dealers were telling owners that over filling the DEF may cause issues. They also advised not to let the DEF go below 1/4 tank.

 

Of course you can pass a lesser gas engine with your diesel, I dont think anyone is contesting that? It is indeed the longevity of the diesel as a complete unit that has proven problematic enough that most are sold before or shortly after the warranty expires and then starts down the new owner repair/resell pathway and meets an early demise more than not due to expensive repairs.

My (2013 F550) lowest mileage 6.8L gas engine was retired with over 350k miles (363,xxx from memory) on it with 180-200k of that in the rocky mountains with 18k behind it, the other portion of mileage was towing a Case CX80 excavator 18.5k pound machine. Truck rotted away and that 6.8L in excess of 350k miles is sitting in a garage bay beside two more retired 6.8L engines in excess of 400k miles incase they are needed for my other three 6.8L trucks still working, two of which are also north of 400k miles.

Current 2016 F550 with a 6.8L is just shy of 100k miles now and towing around that same Case CX80 every time its driven. New 2022 F550 with 7.3L is towing around a new Bobcat E88. Just shy of 30k between machine and trailer behind both those trucks and they should last me the next 10+ years and im not afraid to keep them out of warranty

The gas vs diesel longevity ship has sailed and sunk decades ago. My own personal fleet examples as well as the 60+ customer fleet vehicles with gas engines I service on an annual basis just shy of two decades now. Still servicing DEM 2003 and 2004 F250/F350s with 5.4L and 6.8L well north of 300k miles now.

 

senix ……. You have your fingers on the pulse! Your info looks to be sound based on feedback. Now if I can only be assured of getting 1. The VOR status was approved by Ford Cust Svc and Dealer is working it as well. Tks!

 

Once all done and back on the road will be adding the %DPF to the screen and might even do a manual regen every 3 months or so. They are saying in this case it is the DOC so not sure what we can for it. I always keep DEF at least 3/4 full and use quality DEF. Again though with only 20K Miles on it still concerns me why it went south.

 

Senix you are like Santa Clause and I feel like Xmas morning waiting to see what’s under the tree!!

 

I regularly see cummins owners with over 300K on DEF trucks and never had any issues other than normal maintenance. I just ran in to a guy with a 2013 F350...500K!!.
lHe had no plans of shelving that truck...nonreason to.

 

Might consider it but I am 2500 miles from home and don’t want the risk of happening during the drive with the 5th connected. Other thing from dealer is that to hold the VOR status they want the truck at the dealership and not being driven.

 

How many of these engines have you been around and know their entire history? I've owned a fleet service garage since 2006 servicing just about every gas and diesel engine offered in class 2-6 trucks. Also had my own fleet since 2003 consisting of both gas and diesel engines. I have more weight in three ring binders of engine maintenance records than a 6.7L Powerstoke weighs, and those records prove without question the gas engines are far more reliable and cost effective mile for mile.

I can respect you personally prefer the diesel engine, but I have multiple gas engines that do comparable work and get reliably from point A - point B all the same as a diesel engine. Please bring forth lifetime operating cost records of a 6.7L that has served 400k miles and ill gladly spend the time to scan in all my records from the four 6.8L I have that are in excess of 400k miles to compare.

 

U-Haul has a huge fleet of trucks all of them gas up to 26’.

 

Heh guys, circling back to provide an update ……. DPF/DOC arrived on Monday, installed by dealer asap and I had it back by Tuesday. So far no more CEL issues. The technician explained that the DEF Injector was partially clogged and delivering a stream of def rather than a mist. The liquid def stripped the coatings off the SCR hence rendering it ineffective and the resulting error code of low efficiency on the SCR. They are confident that the issue will not reappear as the cause and effect are known and not changing parts on spec. Hoping they are right!!

Thanks to everyone for the feedback and insights. Senix you were bang on with the parts delivery! Santa visited for sure.

As this thread took a somewhat off topic path of Gas vs Diesel I say each to their own. I will not be departing with either the 5th or the F450. To simply suggest dumping the diesel to get a gasser is an individual opinion with no right or wrong choice. I have owned an SD w/6.7 since 2011 and have never looked back.

thanks again …… case closed …….. hopefully forever!

 

Most likely you will find that your def usage will go down too.

I also aummed they did a manual regen so if you monitor that, it will not happen for awhile.

Mine was put on Monday and I now have over 2300 miles on it and all is well.

 

Understood and agree on the def usage. Yes, manual regen was done. I only have about 250 miles since installed. I am feeling good about the fix this time. Fingers crossed for all!,

 

Hope nobody goes into service for warranty or big part items. I have been waiting almost 8 weeks now for a replacement rear axle on my truck with 800 miles.

Parts/Service Shortage is real and getting worse.

 

Open up a case with ford cus service via this website. They will need your vin, mileage, servicing dealer.
Perhaps they can check into it and elevate the parts towards your repair.

 

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