DPF Nightmare
Mountain Pass
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This is horrible advice on so many levels....
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Tuned
Joined: Aug 2010
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From: Southern Ontario
Bit of an update …….. looks like “maybe” I will getting one of the DPF/DOC parts arriving on Feb 27. To be confirmed. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the advice, info, and assist. I was just joking about the KIA! Lol. It’s not so much the part going defective, although it still doesn’t make sense as to why it did at 20K miles, it’s the fact there are no parts stuffed in a warehouse that can keep us on the road and going. This breakdown did not occur at a very opportune time, I know I know they never do and that put more pressure on coming up with a resolve. Would not trade for a gasser either as it doesn’t fit my use case!
More Turbo
Joined: Feb 2022
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From: Texas
Everyone has unique use requirements for their truck. Not everyone pulls a huge 14,000 lb+ 5th wheel to push one into a diesel with its awesome EPA mandated emissions complexity, reliability issues, initial purchase cost, maintenance and repair costs and all the extra worries that go along with it. Some people just want a solid, reliable HD truck and don't have/want a huge 5-er.
It's why Ford offers the 7.3L Godzilla. Most owners absolutely love theirs. People love their diesels too, I get it. Again, people have unique use requirements and factors that effect what they want. So that advice wasn't as bad as your comment sounded.
It's why Ford offers the 7.3L Godzilla. Most owners absolutely love theirs. People love their diesels too, I get it. Again, people have unique use requirements and factors that effect what they want. So that advice wasn't as bad as your comment sounded.
Laughing Gas
Joined: May 2014
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From: Colorado Rockies
My advice is let Ford fix the truck. If, like some people here, owning a diesel bothers you, buy an extended warranty; not a gas truck that will never be able to meet your needs (I know you are not going to). Just troubling that any time there is a problem with a power stroke, the 7.3 guys start dumping on them. I guess gas trucks never have problems. The OP just wanted to discuss his DPF problem; he was not asking for advice on which truck you think he should have.
More Turbo
Joined: Dec 2020
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From: New Jersey
Any time there is a 6.7 related discussion, certain gas folk are sure to drop by in an effort to make themselves feel good. They are certain to type the word "godzilla" every single time after the displacement.
Laughing Gas
Joined: May 2014
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From: Colorado Rockies
I agree with d7 that a diesel is not for everyone. But I have not seen many gas trucks pulling an 18k trailer (especially here in the mountains), nor have I seen many gas F-450's. Sorry about the rant.
Cargo Master
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From: Bighorn Basin, NW Wyoming
The OP asked for “thoughts” so I gave him mine. OP best of luck to you getting your truck fixed asap!
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I gross on average 40k with my F550s (6.8L and 7.3L) and its a non issue when not climbing through mountains. Few 6-9% grades from time to time but usually 1-1.5 mile at most. Diesels have soured many of local contractor around me and pushed them to consider a gas engine. Once they did they found it adequate enough and practical that most fleets and small contractors are operating gas engines now in class 2b up to 6.
Laughing Gas
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From: Colorado Rockies
I am pleased your 7.3 works well for you. If my diesel was not such a great engine, I might have a 7.3
Mountain Pass
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You wont if you stay out West. You also have 20% of the United States population. Venture East where its lower elevation and you'll find many Gasoline trucks all the way up to class 6 working. Box trucks grossing up to 26k, F450, F550, and F600 dump trucks pulling 20k equipment, and even the F650 is getting rather popular with the 7.3L gas engine. Only the trucks that travel the highways are still by majority diesels, but even at that a gas truck can hold 65mph-70mph which is the speed limit on the east coast and more guys are giving gas a try.
I gross on average 40k with my F550s (6.8L and 7.3L) and its a non issue when not climbing through mountains. Few 6-9% grades from time to time but usually 1-1.5 mile at most. Diesels have soured many of local contractor around me and pushed them to consider a gas engine. Once they did they found it adequate enough and practical that most fleets and small contractors are operating gas engines now in class 2b up to 6.
I gross on average 40k with my F550s (6.8L and 7.3L) and its a non issue when not climbing through mountains. Few 6-9% grades from time to time but usually 1-1.5 mile at most. Diesels have soured many of local contractor around me and pushed them to consider a gas engine. Once they did they found it adequate enough and practical that most fleets and small contractors are operating gas engines now in class 2b up to 6.
You won't get the longevity of those gassers like a diesel- which is obvious because like you sad yourself - they are local in town haulers. Also those companies rotate their fleets pretty regularly so gassers make more sense.
I am pulling at 16K 5ver and a gasser would do it I guess....I have passed many on mountain grades and they were pulling less weight. That thing called foot lbs of torque is a bonus.
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2021
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From: Bighorn Basin, NW Wyoming
My 2021 F450 with 20K miles tossed a CEL while towing 18K 5th a week ago. Forscan read a P20EE code. Into Ford it went ….. was warned the outcome might not be a good one as they have had other trucks in with the same code and can take a hard path to remedy. First path indicated a change of the DEF injector. Changed. Drove 20 miles and guess what ……. Another CEL. Back to Ford and this time indicated action was a new DPF!! BUT they are back ordered until the end of March. Really. The truck only has 20K miles on it. How can the DPF need replacing. Mechanic said the plugged injector likely caused the DPF to fail. Doesn’t sound right to me. I understand there are hundreds waiting for DPF’s and the back order to clear. Why are so many trucks facing this right now? There has to be another cause. Yes, covered under warranty, (it’s an $8-$10K job) but off the road for 6 weeks is what hurts. Thoughts?
Thoughts… $8-$10k out of warranty ticktocking time bomb nightmare.