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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 03:20 PM
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I guess I did not take enough pictures, first where does this piece go on the back or the motor? ( the white piece with the attachment for the starter) On the bottom half of the flywheel before mounting the bell housing? Or on the top half?
I regard to the alternator, one of the leads,( with the red tab)


goes to the battery and the other goes to ground??? Do I not need to put a wire to the voltage regulator or is it internal regulated?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 03:33 PM
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On the alternator, if it needs an external regulator it will have a two-contact plug, more on the side. (on the bottom of the one in your picture.) If it is a one wire, it only needs the two wires you show.

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The starter mount bolts to the bell housing and to a small cover on the bottom of the bell housing, with the starter mount extension towards the front. It is installed after the bell housing and the engine are together.

From the service manual:
 
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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OK, thanks for the information, the alternator has the plug on the side but it has been blocked off.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ynot321AB1
OK, thanks for the information, the alternator has the plug on the side but it has been blocked off.
If it is blocked off with a plastic plug, it is a one wire. You have it right.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 06:33 PM
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One wire?

One wire meaning that one wire goes to the battery and the second wire to ground? Also, you said that the starter mount goes on the OUTSIDE of the bell housing? I thought it might go between the flywheel and the bell housing. This is on a '50 F-1 with a 239 flathead.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 07:35 PM
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This is a full drawing to be truck specific.


sorry, I had forgotten yours was a 1950.
 

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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ynot321AB1
One wire meaning that one wire goes to the battery and the second wire to ground?
Yes. They call it a "one wire" because there are no wires to a regulator or to the ignition switch. The ground wire can be important. Poor grounding can be a pain. The other wire goes to the battery. The alternator switches it's self on and off.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 11:36 AM
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On the alternator, if it needs an external regulator it will have a two-contact plug, more on the side. (on the bottom of the one in your picture.) If it is a one wire, it only needs the two wires you show.
I use to think that if it was rectangle like this it was internal regulator and if the spade plugs were in a square plug it was external regulator. It has been to long for me to rememver what those "R and F" went to. I could trace on my truck since I wired it up 25 yrs ago.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 12:44 PM
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Here's a pretty good video on wiring
 
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The starter plate goes behind (towards the front of the engine) the flywheel but is bolted to the clutch cover. So you install it after the clutch cover is attached to the block. It helps to leave the clutch cover bolts a little loose until you slide the starter plate into position. If your truck still has the "dust shield" (p/n 6410 in the diagram above) you want to install it before you put the flywheel, starter plate, or clutch cover on.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 04:33 PM
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Again thanks for the information, it is great to have a place to go to for ansawers
 
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 03:01 PM
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OK, 1 final question, does the starter mortor mount, pictured with this message, go on before the flywheel? I belieive that is what I see through the pic you sent. I have the flywheel and clutch and pressure plate mounted and cannot find out how to mount the starter motor support.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 03:26 PM
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Maybe it's from the 332-428 family.?
 
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Originally Posted by ynot321AB1
OK, 1 final question, does the starter mortor mount, pictured with this message, go on before the flywheel? I belieive that is what I see through the pic you sent. I have the flywheel and clutch and pressure plate mounted and cannot find out how to mount the starter motor support.
Nope.
Flywheel, clutch pressure plate, then the clutch cover and then the starter mounting plate. Re-read Ross' description of installation.
 
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