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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:48 AM
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After seeing many variations of the 23's, I am liking the front end. The side steps don't bother me, actually they will be useful. The wheels though.......
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:51 AM
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Wheels are easy to change if ya hatem !
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EastMark
Wheels are easy to change if ya hatem !
Oh, I do change them But I won't order for a year or so. I was going to do a '23, but my tax lady told me to keep my '22 for a year. Fun hater. My wife said the same. But I told her if I order it will be a year!!
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 07:07 AM
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Yeah, if you can live with the rest, then the wheels would be the easiest to deal with since you can change them. And, as a bonus, someone will buy the OEMs, which will offset the cost of the new wheels. But I also think that if you can wait a year, my vote would be to wait that year to see what the 24's will look like. I know it will be longer than a year, but hopefully the 24's will be correct some of the 23 mistakes... then again, maybe it will be worse... Good luck!
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by IADiver
. My wife said the same. But I told her if I order it will be a year!!


Perfect ! Haha.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter
Yeah, if you can live with the rest, then the wheels would be the easiest to deal with since you can change them. And, as a bonus, someone will buy the OEMs, which will offset the cost of the new wheels. But I also think that if you can wait a year, my vote would be to wait that year to see what the 24's will look like. I know it will be longer than a year, but hopefully the 24's will be correct some of the 23 mistakes... then again, maybe it will be worse... Good luck!
+1. I don't think actual transaction price (not MSRP) will go up substantially from this point going forward. By 2024, barring any significant supply chain disruptions, supply should definitely exceed demand. Also, GM should have sufficient supply of their Silverado/Sierra 3500s at that point for competition. There are dealers that are advertising $3,000-7,500 off MSRP for 2023 Sierra 3500s at this point.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 11:53 AM
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The only wheels and grill for 2023 that look decent, in my humble opinion. Lariat sport package.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IADiver
Oh, I do change them But I won't order for a year or so. I was going to do a '23, but my tax lady told me to keep my '22 for a year. Fun hater. My wife said the same. But I told her if I order it will be a year!!
Oder banks are closed for '23 anyways, so you might could order a '24 in October and get it next year sometime.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gSwift
Oder banks are closed for '23 anyways, so you might could order a '24 in October and get it next year sometime.
I'd almost be willing to bet that the '24 order banks open in mid to late summer.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny F2 fiddy
I'd almost be willing to bet that the '24 order banks open in mid to late summer.
There seems to be some discussion on whether the 2023 order banks opened back up:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...er-bank-4.html

I wouldn't be surprised with demand decreasing and production increasing.
 
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Originally Posted by Polo08816
+1. I don't think actual transaction price (not MSRP) will go up substantially from this point going forward. By 2024, barring any significant supply chain disruptions, supply should definitely exceed demand. Also, GM should have sufficient supply of their Silverado/Sierra 3500s at that point for competition. There are dealers that are advertising $3,000-7,500 off MSRP for 2023 Sierra 3500s at this point.
Thats because GM has made garbage quality products made in Mexico for some time and they artificially inflate the price so they can put it "On Sale".
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gSwift
Oder banks are closed for '23 anyways, so you might could order a '24 in October and get it next year sometime.
Just talked with Granger, they said the can still order. Only certain models are balance out. She said 450's and 350 dually's. But 24's are gonna be late august/september. At this point that is probably what I will do.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 05:27 PM
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Thats because GM has made garbage quality products made in Mexico for some time and they artificially inflate the price so they can put it "On Sale".
Do they make HDs in Silao? I thought it was just some of then1/2 tons but I could be wrong.

in any case ford people shouldn’t cast any stones about Mexican made products considering some of the most sought after Ford products are made there, like Mach E, Maverick, bronco sport, some Lincoln’s, and most relevant to us, the 6.7 PSD.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 05:46 PM
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Thats because GM has made garbage quality products made in Mexico for some time and they artificially inflate the price so they can put it "On Sale".
oh how cute…
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 05:46 PM
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oh how cute…
name 1 GM product worth a damn in the last 20 years...

And I dont mean "Well I owned one and didn't have any issues until I traded it at 80k miles"
 
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