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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 05:55 PM
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name 1 GM product worth a damn in the last 20 years...

And I dont mean "Well I owned one and didn't have any issues until I traded it at 80k miles"
none…I put bumper stickers of Calvin peeing on bowties on all my rides.

do you seriously believe that one brand is honestly superior to another? They are ALL overpriced junk
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 05:58 PM
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none…I put bumper stickers of Calvin peeing on bowties on all my rides.

do you seriously believe that one brand is honestly superior to another? They are ALL overpriced junk
Ford WAS superior to GM and Ram but now all 3 are being priced to the moon and corners are being cut everywhere.

Just look at how many people report water in the cabs of their Super Duty. There isn't just 1 cause but multiple different reasons and it depends on what options you have how many different ways water can leak into your cab.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:01 PM
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another thread to say you dont like the wheels ? wow cool story
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:08 PM
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Does make one laugh when people are so against a product being assembled in another country, yet the majority if not 100% of the parts the unit is comprised of are produced in other countries. At that point what's the difference.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:13 PM
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Does make one laugh when people are so against a product being assembled in another country, yet the majority if not 100% of the parts the unit is comprised of are produced in other countries.
So we should just turn our backs on American labor because the companies are choosing to increase their margins by using slave labor to produce the parts and pieces. I only purchase made in USA parts to put on my trucks. I refuse to shop at Harbor freight for tools because I'd rather buy 1 American tool than 10 Chinese made tools that are 10x cheaper.

Glad you just leave it to the companies to decide where their labor comes from and profits go. Sometimes you have no choice but when I do I'm not going to choose the cheaper Chinese crap. People are so against slavery here but have no problem when it makes their Iphone or their work boots.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OBS460
So we should just turn our backs on American labor because the companies are choosing to increase their margins by using slave labor to produce the parts and pieces. I only purchase made in USA parts to put on my trucks. I refuse to shop at Harbor freight for tools because I'd rather buy 1 American tool than 10 Chinese made tools that are 10x cheaper.

Glad you just leave it to the companies to decide where their labor comes from and profits go. Sometimes you have no choice but when I do I'm not going to choose the cheaper Chinese crap. People are so against slavery here but have no problem when it makes their Iphone or their work boots.
Buying cheap products is different than buying comparable products just made in different countries. Quality products do come out of China, Mexico, and other countries. You can buy cheap junk made in the U.S. all the same, only you pay top dollar for that cheap junk. I own plenty of quality products (heavy equipment all the way to small hand tools) from other countries that can produce for cheaper than the U.S.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Buying cheap products is different than buying comparable products just made in different countries. Quality products do come out of China, Mexico, and other countries. You can buy cheap junk made in the U.S. all the same, only you pay top dollar for that cheap junk. I own plenty of quality products (heavy equipment all the way to small hand tools) from other countries that can produce for cheaper than the U.S.
Well, that 6.7 in that F450 you keep posting problems with was built in Mexico for mere pesos compared to American or Canadian labor.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:29 PM
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Well, that 6.7 in that F450 you keep posting problems with was built in Mexico for mere pesos compared to American or Canadian labor.
I own all gasoline trucks, do I have an F450 I dont know about?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 06:36 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 09:12 PM
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I can get passed the front end, but that hideous side badge is terrible.
Im hoping they fix it next year like gm did fixed the front end.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 09:20 PM
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I am a huge fan, just wish you could order the KR without the chrome package in Azure.

Mines on order.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2023 | 06:20 AM
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another thread to say you dont like the wheels ? wow cool story
Nope, I have never really liked any factory wheel. My first Ford a '78 bought in 1981 in high school got white spokes and I've done that since. This thread was simply saying that while many can't get around the looks of the new trucks, like everything it will grow on you. People don't like change, but it is inevitable. Some people don't like all the new tech, and some do. In the end for me my truck is a tool, I do like it to look good also. I like the new features like the side step, and step bumper. Simply my point of view. In the end, buy a new one, keep your old one or look elsewhere. BTW, if I took out the part about the wheels, would it be a cool story?
 
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Old Feb 5, 2023 | 06:42 AM
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The side badge is really bad. I can't imagine some supervisor approving the drawing for this crap. The front sucks. The packaging offerings sucks. Wow. What are they thinking?
 
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