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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 06:50 AM
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Betty's First UOA

Well, got my first UOA back from Blackstone. Considering their comments on viscosity and fuel, and copper... I'm definitely going to be continuing with the 5k intervals and keep a close eye on it. This was the 2nd oil change. First one was done shy of 5k, (4,700 IIRC) and the dealer put 5w/40 Full Synthetic in. This sample was the 2nd oil change at 9,950k miles, 5w/40 again. Guess time will tell, a this rate It'll probably be due in March.

 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 09:00 AM
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On these trucks, fuel dilution is going to limit OCI. 5k seems to be the number for me too.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 09:37 AM
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Iron is high for 5k.. You are still breaking in.
What brand of oil?
This sample is low on Z and P. It does not appear to be Motorcraft (low on moly ) or meet the spec for Ford have a minimum of 1k Phosphorous.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by carbonation
Iron is high for 5k.. You are still breaking in.
What brand of oil?
This sample is low on Z and P. It does not appear to be Motorcraft (low on moly ) or meet the spec for Ford have a minimum of 1k Phosphorous.
I would guess, Rotella 5w40 but could be wrong. If that is the case, that supposedly meets FoMoCo's specs but the sample is just under at 919ppm. Could be slight deviation in blending or deviation in the equipment, either way pretty close.

For a short run and low miles the wear metals seem totally fine. The drop in flashpoint with only trace fuel present doesn't make sense but could be a typo or the equipment. If the flash point dropped that much I would think the fuel would be closer to 1-1.5% or so. Was the engine warm or cold when you took the sample?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 09:46 AM
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If their "should be" values are for 5w-40 then I suspect that the dealer may not have used 5w-40 like you asked for. I haven't tested the oil in this truck (did on prior truck) but I do my own oil so I know exactly what's going in there.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by carbonation
Iron is high for 5k.. You are still breaking in.
What brand of oil?
This sample is low on Z and P. It does not appear to be Motorcraft (low on moly ) or meet the spec for Ford have a minimum of 1k Phosphorous.
Should NOT be breaking in at 10k, this was the 2nd oil change. All Motorcraft oil.

First 4,700ish miles were what it came with, I'd assume their 10w/30 SynBlend.

The 2nd was just under 10k, which was 5w40 Motorcraft Full Synthetic.

Which really makes me wonder.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rufushusky
I would guess, Rotella 5w40 but could be wrong. If that is the case, that supposedly meets FoMoCo's specs but the sample is just under at 919ppm. Could be slight deviation in blending or deviation in the equipment, either way pretty close.

For a short run and low miles the wear metals seem totally fine. The drop in flashpoint with only trace fuel present doesn't make sense but could be a typo or the equipment. If the flash point dropped that much I would think the fuel would be closer to 1-1.5% or so. Was the engine warm or cold when you took the sample?
About an hour drive to the Stealership, so the oil was definitely hot. And it was Motorcraft oil. I agree.... the "trace" fuel doesn't match up with the flash. I'll be very interested what the next one reads.
 
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
If their "should be" values are for 5w-40 then I suspect that the dealer may not have used 5w-40 like you asked for. I haven't tested the oil in this truck (did on prior truck) but I do my own oil so I know exactly what's going in there.
While it's under warranty, I won't do them. I don't want to give Ford the chance to weasel out of any kind of failure. They are done at the dealer, and documented as such. Hell, I won't even touch the DEF. I have them fill it.
 
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
About an hour drive to the Stealership, so the oil was definitely hot. And it was Motorcraft oil. I agree.... the "trace" fuel doesn't match up with the flash. I'll be very interested what the next one reads.
See that is why I don't play the lottery, bad guess.

Might be worth using a different lab (polaris, intertek, cat, etc) to compare as well. Generally don't get the nice blurb like blackstone but might be something to think about.
 
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
Should NOT be breaking in at 10k, this was the 2nd oil change. All Motorcraft oil.

First 4,700ish miles were what it came with, I'd assume their 10w/30 SynBlend.

The 2nd was just under 10k, which was 5w40 Motorcraft Full Synthetic.

Which really makes me wonder.
The MC Super Duty 10w30 is a regular oil, not a synthetic blend.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 01:21 PM
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Well, got my first UOA back from Blackstone. Considering their comments on viscosity and fuel, and copper... I'm definitely going to be continuing with the 5k intervals and keep a close eye on it. This was the 2nd oil change. First one was done shy of 5k, (4,700 IIRC) and the dealer put 5w/40 Full Synthetic in. This sample was the 2nd oil change at 9,950k miles, 5w/40 again. Guess time will tell, a this rate It'll probably be due in March.
Originally Posted by ToMang07
Should NOT be breaking in at 10k, this was the 2nd oil change. All Motorcraft oil.

First 4,700ish miles were what it came with, I'd assume their 10w/30 SynBlend.

The 2nd was just under 10k, which was 5w40 Motorcraft Full Synthetic.

Which really makes me wonder.
The original post I read as the first change at 4xxx, and the second at 9xxx. So, my error if sample number 2 was 9xxx miles. Iron would be in line for 9xxx. I don't think you got MC5w40. That add pack doesn't match up from what I know about it. The dealer likely uses whatever brown and slippery bulk is cheapest, rather than MC from the part department.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 05:03 PM
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your type of oil is not what you indicated.

I run T6 5-40WT. I would recommend that.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 06:34 PM
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Here's a screen shot of my oil analysis just for reference. I had the dealership do an oil change around 1200 miles. They put 10W30 back in. Then at 5k I did my own and swapped over to T6 5W40, then did another oil change around 10k and then another around 15k. My iron level is slightly higher than yours, however, it is trending down. (And I do use Better Diesel FBC in mine.) My copper was slightly lower.


 
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
Should NOT be breaking in at 10k, this was the 2nd oil change. All Motorcraft oil.
The 6.7 breaks in somewhere around 10k. I've had every oil change sampled since my truck was new and iron levels stabilized with the 16k oil sample. 5k and 10k had high iron levels. Your next oil change should show the true iron wear numbers if everything is functioning as is should.

 
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirthawg2.0
The 6.7 breaks in somewhere around 10k. I've had every oil change sampled since my truck was new and iron levels stabilized with the 16k oil sample. 5k and 10k had high iron levels. Your next oil change should show the true iron wear numbers if everything is functioning as is should.
Just curious what your iron levels are? Mine at 15k was 21, which is lower than what Blackstone defines as the “universal average” of 27. The OP’s was barely lower than mine at 20.
 
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