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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 06:15 PM
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Complete headlight upgrade

I am looking to upgrade the headlights on my excursion. I am looking for a full upgrade solution and not interested in just swapping out builds.

Any recommendations on products that are currently available ( hid projector ect)?

I am looking for the brights lights I can legally run.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 07:15 PM
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What kind of budget?
Several of us went with the sealed beam conversion. It opens up the headlight options tremendously.
Everything from $40 amnz specials to several hundred dollar top-tier options.

I went JWspeaker heated lights. Montana will make a person hate Leds that don't heat.
The best price I found was a zoro.com. Just add to cart and wait for the 20% discount code spam.
Best headlights I've ever had.
There are several threads around about the conversion. This one is fairly recent.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...downgrade.html
 

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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 10:18 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by callforfire
What kind of budget?
Several of us went with the sealed beam conversion. It opens up the headlight options tremendously.
Everything from $40 amnz specials to several hundred dollar top-tier options.

I went JWspeaker heated lights. Montana will make a person hate Leds that don't heat.
The best price I found was a zoro.com. Just add to cart and wait for the 20% discount code spam.
Best headlights I've ever had.
There are several threads around about the conversion. This one is fairly recent.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...downgrade.html
Do you have any images of the headlight pattern at night? I am considering my upgrade options and am weighing between the sealed beam conversion and a nice HID retrofit.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 11:21 AM
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Ya know. I have meant to do that for a while now. You'd think it would be a no brainer since I mostly work at night.
For the life of me, it is the first thing I forget to do when I head out. I'll try to get some blurry, tilted, pics this evening but no promises.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 12:56 AM
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I almost don't want to post these as my pics don't do them justice at all. I'm not photo inclined and my phone has been washed in skydrol a few times. I couldn't even get pics of my new Hpop right in front of me a few days ago. The glare in the pics is from the phone.
So take that into consideration when viewing.


Lowbeam

Highbeam
Tried getting out for these to get past windshield glare, turns out its the phone camera.


lowbeam again

Highbeam again

2 Things I can see, some more adjustment is needed and I should consider getting a proper camera.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 07:43 AM
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Thank you very much!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 12:13 PM
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I just used stock housings with Beamtech LEDs off Amazon that are fanless and let me tell you, they are awesome! They have been in since October 2017 and havent had one issue. Have the matching 5000k LED fog bulbs to complete the look. I did all exterior LEDs (had to replace the flasher for LEDs) on the whole thing including running boards. Now onto the interior bulbs!

 
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 12:18 PM
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Driving down the highway low beam... picture doesn't do them justice. Can see over 1/4 down road on high beams.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 02:18 PM
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The beamtechs are a good light for the money. If I had stayed down south, I might still have them.
It's hard to get good pics of this sort of thing, and I'm already bad at taking pics that aren't difficult.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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callforfire, what wiring harness mods did you need to make for the JWspeaker lights, are they the 8910 model, Thanks?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 02:41 PM
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Yep, 8910.
9004 or 9007 to H4 wiring harness adapters. plug & play but one of the adapters I used had the hi/low reversed (thanks amazon). It was a simple matter of swapping the pins around in the plug.
A hard part to source was the metal housing, part 4 in the image at the link. That has a right and left and clips onto the adjusters. I just felt the ford price was a bit steep.
https://parts.lakelandford.com/a/533...ME99035.html#2
I ended up just getting sealed beam bulb assemblies from a box store, both bulbs came with housing and hardware for about the same as one from ford and swapping the LEDs in.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by callforfire
Yep, 8910.
9004 or 9007 to H4 wiring harness adapters. plug & play but one of the adapters I used had the hi/low reversed (thanks amazon). It was a simple matter of swapping the pins around in the plug.
A hard part to source was the metal housing, part 4 in the image at the link. That has a right and left and clips onto the adjusters. I just felt the ford price was a bit steep.
https://parts.lakelandford.com/a/533...ME99035.html#2
I ended up just getting sealed beam bulb assemblies from a box store, both bulbs came with housing and hardware for about the same as one from ford and swapping the LEDs in.

Swapping LEDs in? Confused... Stock new headlamps are about $60.00 on Amazon, and then a set of Beamtech LEDs are about $35.00. I have less than $100 in amazing bright headlamps.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 10:16 PM
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Swapping LEDs in? Confused... Stock new headlamps are about $60.00 on Amazon, and then a set of Beamtech LEDs are about $35.00. I have less than $100 in amazing bright headlamps.
I also have LED bulbs in the stock housings on a few trucks, but there is a reason that tends to get a lot of hate. That reason is certain LED bulbs have the didoes placed in weird locations so the light doesn't come off the stock reflectors correctly . This causes light scatter and blinds oncoming drivers. Generally speaking you get what you pay for and the more expensive LED bulbs don't have these issues.

I've tried a several Amazon bulbs in different vehicles over the years, some work great, some are just garbage. Sometime the name brand that worked great for one truck was garbage on another (i.e, the brand that works great in my Dodge Cummins truck is freaking terrible in my Excursion). Here lately I've been using the moderately more expensive LED bulbs from Dieselsite (link below), I have them in two trucks now and they have a good light cutoff line, actually shift from hi to low beam well, and don't seem to blind oncoming traffic (on low beam anyway).
https://www.dieselsite.com/ledheadlightbulb9007.aspx
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Old Jan 29, 2023 | 12:51 AM
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Swapping LEDs in? Confused... Stock new headlamps are about $60.00 on Amazon, and then a set of Beamtech LEDs are about $35.00. I have less than $100 in amazing bright headlamps.
The JWspeaker lights we're talking about are leds being swapped into the old-style housings. Among the parts needed are the metal bezels that retain them and the bowls that go behind the bulbs and attach the light to the adjuster screws.
For some odd reason, Ford will at times charge more for just one of these than it costs for both complete bulb assemblies. It was cheaper at the time I did mine to just walk in and buy a pair of halogen assemblies and swap the parts over.





In any case, this isn't the cheap option as it is a full conversion from stock to sealed beams. It doesn't have to be expensive, but it can get there pretty quickly as there are quite a few parts being replaced.
Overall brightness isn't so much a concern as the beam pattern and cutoff. Getting light where it needs to be at an angle that isn't blinding other drivers is worth far more.
What I am unable to show in pictures is the beam pattern gives good coverage of the road ahead, and illumination of objects out in front without needing to be aimed so high & wide they glare oncoming traffic.
The bulbs I have chosen do that for me well enough that I almost forget I have high beams because I so rarely use high. I gotta say though the heating elements are my favorite feature.
Ice on the stock plastic housings gives that disco ball scatter effect with dark spots in bad places and leds just don't get hot enough to thaw them out.
And if the brightest beams on the road are your thing, have a look at all of the options for 5x7 leds, it can get crazy. Like crappy hotspot lazerdeathrays blazing out for miles.
It seems like every 3rd jeep on the road here has those. and they like to aim one directly at oncoming traffic and the other at treetops on the other side of the road.
 
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