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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 08:58 AM
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Question Transmission ID

Can anyone tell me what tranmission is in this picture?

 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 09:34 AM
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Post a picture of the shifter stick. Truck is obviously 1984-1986. Probably NP435 with that side cover.

The Certification Label will indicate what trans it is also. It's on the cab, right by the driver's door striker post.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 05:54 PM
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I dont know what transmission but as Cory said is all right.

But the bigger question is what motor so you can get a new oil pan.
Being it is pushed in it would be up into the oil pick up and may not be able to pull in oil, starving the motor.
I would also think the pick up is bent also.
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 07:05 PM
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This is the shifter. The door sticker says the transmission code is "B." Thanks for the help.

I took note about the oil pan, going to be a bit until I can do anything about it. I guess somebody used the oil pan for a jackstand


 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 07:41 PM
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The MPC says code "B" is a four speed Clark OD. This has come up before, as there is such a thing as a 4 speed OD for those years, but it isn't a Clark. I don't know how "Clark" got in there--there were Clark 4 speeds but they seem to go back a few decades.

Anyway, the 4 speed OD is a Ford design that was supposedly produced by Tremec as the 170. It is geared like a 3 speed with 4th being overdrive. It is based on the performance transmission from the '60s.

And the transmission in the OP's picture isn't one of them. They do not have a PTO port on them.

The OP's picture shows a curved bulge on the side of the case--the NP435 has such a curve. First will be a granny gear, 4th direct. The aluminum top would also be a giveaway.
https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledg.../manual/np435/

The other bolt in option, if that's what happened here as it all looks pretty factory, is a T18. No curve there.
https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledg...anual/t18-t19/



 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 07:42 PM
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It's my truck, I was thinking maybe something got swapped at some point. So I should look at the top of it and see if it's aluminum?

Also, the first gear feels like a granny gear
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 07:46 PM
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If you can see the top and it's aluminum, it's NP435. If not--the angle and shadows may have fooled me on the curved bulge, look at the driver side of the case for numbers cast into the case.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 07:48 PM
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The trans the truck came with was notoriously weak and gave a lot of problems. I bet someone swapped in a NP435 or a T18. They are both 4 speed granny gear transmissions. Sounds like from what 85e150 said, someone swapped in a NP435.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 06:23 AM
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The trans the truck came with was notoriously weak and gave a lot of problems. I bet someone swapped in a NP435 or a T18. They are both 4 speed granny gear transmissions. Sounds like from what 85e150 said, someone swapped in a NP435.
Trans code "B" for the OP's truck would have been the Tremec T170 "TOD". They weren't so bad...not as bad as the earlier ones at least (The SROD and SMOD). The SMOD and SROD were the ones everybody complained about so much. The "TOD" for Top Shift OD was an all aluminum trans with a top mounted shifter, kind of like the M5OD 5spd that replaced it. None of them were "work" transmissions really...they were grocery getters lol.

The current trans certainly looks like an NP435 from underneath, but if it is, the shifter stick looks like it might be a 1970's NP435. The Bullnose shifter stick for the NP435 was the really curvy one. The T-18/19 had a longer straighter stick, as did the NP435 in the 70's trucks. Bullnose NP435 shifter stick below:



Quick way to confirm NP435 or T-18 if it cannot be determined by the stick.

T-18 reverse is next to 3rd gear.
NP435 reverse is next to 4th gear.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 06:45 AM
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This is a NP435 stick and if you look at where the boot sits is only 7.5 inches back from factory because of the overdrive I have in the truck now.



This is a T18 the truck came with and you can see the stick is more straight than the NP435. BTW both have granny first gears.


This is the shifter for a SROD

I dont have a picture of this trans out of the truck and I have not seen the shifter stick since I pulled the trans from the parts truck.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rembrant
Quick way to confirm NP435 or T-18 if it cannot be determined by the stick.

T-18 reverse is next to 3rd gear.
NP435 reverse is next to 4th gear.
Cory that maybe true on the early T18's but not the later one as my truck, 81 F100, had reverse to the right and back to the seat for both the T18 and the NP435 in the truck now.

Think Novak list this on their site where the reverse was and the year it changed.
I have to be careful when I drive the pickup after driving my work truck, 10 speed Fuller trans, where reverse is to the left and forward as that is where granny forward gear is and can get ugly if not careful.
I also find myself wanting to float gears in the pickup and both transmission shift the same S L O W !!!
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
Cory that maybe true on the early T18's but not the later one as my truck, 81 F100, had reverse to the right and back to the seat for both the T18 and the NP435 in the truck now.
Ok, scratch that idea then. I don't know all that much about the T-18. The NP435 was way more common, especially in the later year Bullnose trucks. My 1980 F150 came with a T-18 but it was gone/ removed when I bought the truck.

I hate it when people swap stuff and then do not leave any notes or history on what was done lol.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 07:16 AM
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Man is someone going to have fun with my pickup when I am gone
Even more so being I used all Ford parts with in the 80 - 86 years but between flare side & style side trucks.
Not even the Marty report would help as ny truck has factory AC (firewall) that it did not come with LOL

Then again half the fun is trying to figure out what all was done by PO's over the years
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