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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 09:33 AM
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Requires a 1 7/8" hole saw to cut the hole in the bumper, but I used a 2", as that's what was available. It's a bit counterintuitive to gnaw a hole in a perfectly good bumper...

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If you know any electricians you can use a 1.5" knockout punch which is 1.969" diameter. Makes a nice clean hole and quick. It does require a pilot hole.


 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 09:52 AM
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Chris, since you obviously live in a cold weather area have you done the cheap and easy glow plug LED mod? What about the upgraded GPR mod?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:07 AM
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Chris, since you obviously live in a cold weather area have you done the cheap and easy glow plug LED mod? What about the upgraded GPR mod?
Some time ago I bought the upgraded Stancor GPR, set it down in my shop and now can't find it. It'll turn up in July...

I want to not only install the GP LED mod, I'd like to also install a two minute manual timer so I can turn the timer and the plugs will heat for up to two minutes on the coldest days.

I'm having a hard time finding a timer I find suitable.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomkat07
Some time ago I bought the upgraded Stancor GPR, set it down in my shop and now can't find it. It'll turn up in July...

I want to not only install the GP LED mod, I'd like to also install a two minute manual timer so I can turn the timer and the plugs will heat for up to two minutes on the coldest days.

I'm having a hard time finding a timer I find suitable.
I don't think you need a timer, on a cold morning I believe they do stay on for up to 2 minutes. At any rate they stay on much longer than the WTS lamp. A timer would be complicated as it's the ground signal that energizes the relay, it always has the hot power.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:27 AM
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I don't think you need a timer, on a cold morning I believe they do stay on for up to 2 minutes. At any rate they stay on much longer than the WTS lamp. A timer would be complicated as it's the ground signal that energizes the relay, it always has the hot power.
Yeah, it's something I've given some thought towards but never went forward with any gusto as it's been working fine for nearly 25 years and, as you've said, serves to only complicate things.

I just like the control aspect of it, but it's not needed. The LED and upgraded GPR are better spent efforts, I believe.

Now to find that Stancor...
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:37 AM
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Just out of curiosity I just checked. It is 53F in my garage, the truck has not been started for over 2 weeks and the glow plugs energized for one minute and 11 seconds with key on, engine off.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:43 AM
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I’m a strange one who doesn’t understand the desire to put bright LEDs in the gauge cluster. I run mine very dim to keep visibility down the road good. I just don’t like things shining in my eyes. Lots of folks love this mod though.



I LOVE this idea! I’ve always had a hard time thinking of drilling out my stock bumper. This is a nice hidden way to add the mod. Thing is I rarely use the block heater so I’ll just keep this in mind.

I do not have an on board charger but recently purchased the small NOCO Genius1 which I rotate between stored items in the winter. I really like the charger and will share the link below. Now I’m wondering if I could do a similar mount behind the grill for the small 2 prong 12v adapter from the charger. Then no need to pop the hood and use the clamps. Most of the other things I charge already have the 12v quick connect but I’ve never added one to the truck yet. Hmmmm.

NOCO GENIUS1, 1-Amp Automatic... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W46BX31...p_mob_ap_share



I’ve also been considering the phone charge port with battery display. I’ve hesitated because our 12v ports are always powered on which would require me to remember to turn off the meter when shutting down. Yeah, I’ve even thought about rewiring or adding a relay from a keyed circuit. I may just get the push in version which is easier for me to notice and remove when stopping. How do you fellas remember to turn yours off?
You bring up points directly related to my mental questions, I am watching for replies. Thanks!
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomkat07
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Requires a 1 7/8" hole saw to cut the hole in the bumper, but I used a 2", as that's what was available. It's a bit counterintuitive to gnaw a hole in a perfectly good bumper...

If you're going to be doing electrical work that require any significant amounts of disconnecting <--> reconnecting your negative battery terminals, I recommend quick disconnects.
After I replied to you, i saw the gent with the configuration behind the grill and 'think' that is where I am going to hide mine. Still researching the mod for best placement to avoid future headaches.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:51 AM
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Just out of curiosity I just checked. It is 53F in my garage, the truck has not been started for over 2 weeks and the glow plugs energized for one minute and 11 seconds with key on, engine off.
It's 18F here, and my truck won't fit in my garage without removing the rear bumper, receiver hitch, bed, front brush guard and bumper. ;-}

Would you wait out that entire time before firing it?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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After I replied to you, i saw the gent with the configuration behind the grill and 'think' that is where I am going to hide mine. Still researching the mod for best placement to avoid future headaches.
That's a slick spot to put the socket, for sure. That area on my truck has been removed for the Zoodad mod.

But then no one looking at the front of the truck would readily see you've done this mod. Coolness points lost...
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomkat07
It's 18F here, and my truck won't fit in my garage without removing the rear bumper, receiver hitch, bed, front brush guard and bumper. ;-}

Would you wait out that entire time before firing it?
No, I do wait a bit longer than the WTS light but the only time I let the relay time out is when we visit colder climates where it gets below freezing, then I wait till the LED goes out. Not only does this warm up the cyls more but waiting for the glow plugs to de-energize also prevents the starter load and the GP load from both pulling on the batteries at the same time, which theoretically should give you a bit more cranking power.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomkat07
It's 18F here, and my truck won't fit in my garage without removing the rear bumper, receiver hitch, bed, front brush guard and bumper. ;-}

Would you wait out that entire time before firing it?
sounds like the size of my garage too! I have a 3-(mini) car garage that only 1 of our 4 cars fits into. Even our pre ious Odyssey barely fit, never thought to measure that when we moved here in 08.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 12:17 PM
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That's a slick spot to put the socket, for sure. That area on my truck has been removed for the Zoodad mod.

But then no one looking at the front of the truck would readily see you've done this mod. Coolness points lost...
hahah, I forgot about those points, most of mine are hidden behind something already and no one knows until I reveal them.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 12:20 PM
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sounds like the size of my garage too! I have a 3-(mini) car garage that only 1 of our 4 cars fits into. Even our pre ious Odyssey barely fit, never thought to measure that when we moved here in 08.
Yeah, that's how it goes but I'm NOT complaining. It's great for a bench, tools and equipment with room to move around, an '01 Subaru or '17 Ford Escape fits in there as well.

WAY better than in my past, working not only out in the cold but in the parking lot of an apartment complex or on street parking; knowing I'm being observed and should I leave for even a *moment* "they" will come to take my stuff.

Here is quiet and relatively secure.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpayne621
Mine stays on all the time. Don't think the voltage display uses much power at all. If you drive the truck atleast once a month it will be fine.
Originally Posted by F350towing
Like you, I’m the same on the instrument lights LED bulbs. I don’t want something bright and shining in my face.

The charge port voltage meter is not offensive at night where I have it mounted but bright enough in the day to know you have left it on.

If your O.C.D. it will never get left on. If your A.D.D. it’s likely that something shiny to your left has caught your attention and it might get left on.

I measured draw over a week with nothing plugged into it. .09 volt, so I wouldn’t be too worried about it killing batteries in short order.
That was on a single 11 year old RV coach battery so I’m sure that healthy dual battery system would perform even better to the draw.
Thanks gentleman! Mine does see quite a bit of garage time, especially in the winter. But I try to rotate a trickle charger to these items every so often. The current draw is likely not a concern.

F350, Seems I might be OCD+ADD so it could go either way for me.


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Some time ago I bought the upgraded Stancor GPR, set it down in my shop and now can't find it. It'll turn up in July...

I want to not only install the GP LED mod, …
Funny about the missing GPR likely showing up in July. Sounds about right!

I also had planned on doing the GPR LED and even bought some LEDs for the job. But after reading and thinking a bit more I decided that it wasn’t worth the hassle for me. My deciding factors for your consideration. 1- the LED can still light even with a partially working GPR. 2- a digital voltage display (like others have shown) would do a better job of showing glow plug operation. 3- the GPR can easily be crossed to make it operate on the chance it goes out unexpectedly.

Originally Posted by Tomkat07
That's a slick spot to put the socket, for sure. That area on my truck has been removed for the Zoodad mod.

But then no one looking at the front of the truck would readily see you've done this mod. Coolness points lost...
I’m the opposite and grant extra coolness points for functional mods that are invisible.

For anyone considering the Zoodad mod, check out the hidden version before deciding where to drill. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16924907

And to be clear, no arguments here. You guys do you. Each person has a preference and the variety is what makes things great. Except for the Carolina squat and rubber band tires. I’ll argue about those...

 
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