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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 03:50 PM
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7.3 chassis

Does anyone know how much if any physical differences there are between
the 7.3 in a 350 chassis and a pickup.

this would be in a 2023. I may need to replace a truck here in the near future

 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 03:59 PM
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Are you asking if there are any differences between the frames from 2022 to 2023, or are you asking about differences between the pickup frame and cab-chassis frame in 2023? 2023 pickup frames are indicated to have some changes around the hitches for increased towing capacities, but I don't know if that is for diesel only. Pickup frames and cab-chassis frames are entirely different from the cab back.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 04:04 PM
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C&C frame is flat from the cab to the back end, and narrower, for mounting flat beds and other flat frame beds, pickup frames are not that way.
Now, if you are asking just about 7.3 engine differences, to my knowledge there is no difference.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 04:08 PM
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The C&C 7.3L is physically identical to the pickup 7.3L. However the C&C is electronically limited to a lower RPM. My C&C doesnt rev past 4200rpm and will shift at wide open throttle between 4000 and 4100rpm. You get all the torque, just not all the HP in the C&C.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 406f150
Are you asking if there are any differences between the frames from 2022 to 2023, or are you asking about differences between the pickup frame and cab-chassis frame in 2023? 2023 pickup frames are indicated to have some changes around the hitches for increased towing capacities, but I don't know if that is for diesel only. Pickup frames and cab-chassis frames are entirely different from the cab back.

No the engine differences. I know about the frame as I run reading utility boxes and need the chassis frame
and 60” cta measurements.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
The C&C 7.3L is physically identical to the pickup 7.3L. However the C&C is electronically limited to a lower RPM. My C&C doesnt rev past 4200rpm and will shift at wide open throttle between 4000 and 4100rpm. You get all the torque, just not all the HP in the C&C.

So if I would get someone good on a computer that knew what they were doing such as 5star? Tuning I
could unlock it and have a normal pickup engine?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
So if I would get someone good on a computer that knew what they were doing such as 5star? Tuning I
could unlock it and have a normal pickup engine?
I would imagine so? Take one for a ride though, you may find its unnecessary. My 7.3L is in an F550 that I regularly gross above 35K and it has plenty of power.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
C&C frame is flat from the cab to the back end, and narrower, for mounting flat beds and other flat frame beds, pickup frames are not that way.
Now, if you are asking just about 7.3 engine differences, to my knowledge there is no difference.
And a significantly larger rear spring pack
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
So if I would get someone good on a computer that knew what they were doing such as 5star? Tuning I
could unlock it and have a normal pickup engine?
And, you'll have a voided engine/powertrain warranty..
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
So if I would get someone good on a computer that knew what they were doing such as 5star? Tuning I
could unlock it and have a normal pickup engine?
Not sure what you mean by "normal pickup engine" There is no difference in the engines, only the tune, revving and additional 1000 rpm is useless if the chassis combination isn't set up for it. I have headers, dual exhaust, speed limiter raised, and would have no need for extra rpm. With the C&C 4.88 gears, the transmission shifts so fast the engine is always in the torque band, and at 100mph a 10K # truck is scary fast (Just had to try it once on a straight flat road)
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Miles Mac
Not sure what you mean by "normal pickup engine" There is no difference in the engines, only the tune, revving and additional 1000 rpm is useless if the chassis combination isn't set up for it. I have headers, dual exhaust, speed limiter raised, and would have no need for extra rpm. With the C&C 4.88 gears, the transmission shifts so fast the engine is always in the torque band, and at 100mph a 10K # truck is scary fast (Just had to try it once on a straight flat road)
Hopefully it is. I and running a 6.7 in a chassis now and always just felt a little under power. Many times I would take off an exit ramp up a hill and a passenger would say is this all you have?

I had a 12 valve Cummins and it would keep up or maybe even out run my chassis 6.7 powerstroke. Now it was not stock but still I was a little dissatisfied at how much the 6.7 was detuned.

So I was wondering how much detuned and what the differences are in a 7.3. Are the pistons and rods different? Is the cam different? If I raise the rpm will it fly apart because the rods and crank are heavier and balanced differently.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
Hopefully it is. I and running a 6.7 in a chassis now and always just felt a little under power. Many times I would take off an exit ramp up a hill and a passenger would say is this all you have?
I suspect the gearing had more to do with it than anything.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 11:35 AM
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Not many options or any in gear ratio in a chassis configuration.
The Cummins was in a F350 pickup with a zf6 speed.
I had removed a 6.0.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
So I was wondering how much detuned and what the differences are in a 7.3. Are the pistons and rods different? Is the cam different? If I raise the rpm will it fly apart because the rods and crank are heavier and balanced differently.
It is electronically limited, there is no mechanical difference. If you are coming from a diesel you most likely will be disappointed.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 11:59 AM
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I was at the RV show in Tampa a few years ago and there was a company there that was selling tunes for RVs for the 7.3. Motorhomes engines are also "detuned". Its probably the same deal.
 
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