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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 05:48 PM
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Weird symptoms w/no codes

I've got a '97 F250HD 5.8l. I'm not getting any codes with below issues. It's OBD1 and I've tried multiple times to get a good code but nothing.

If I crank the truck and drive it immediately it surges pretty bad, has a rough idle, wants to jump/lunge forward while stopped with foot on the brake, and has a general loss of power. These symptoms go away after driving for 10 minutes and drives like new. It does this every time like clock work.

When I crank it and let it idle for 10 minutes it drives like new, absolutely none of the above issues happen.

Any help is appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 06:53 PM
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Start with the basics.
What procedure are you using to get your codes?
Have you checked your fuel pressure?
Have you checked your timing?
Have you checked for vacuum leaks?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bcham
It's OBD1 and I've tried multiple times to get a good code but nothing.
No codes would be code 111, system passed.

If your not getting that, then either the ECU has a problem, or you not retrieving codes correctly.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 08:12 PM
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I'm getting 111, system passed.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bcham
I'm getting 111, system passed.
Is that system pass from Key On Engine Off? Are you also getting the same 111 code for Key Of Engine Running?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 08:55 PM
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Is that system pass from Key On Engine Off? Are you also getting the same 111 code for Key Of Engine Running?

yea getting it with KOEO.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 11:18 PM
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111 with engine problems isn't too unreasonable. These early computers didn't do a good job of actually monitoring themselves until obd2 came out.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 04:37 AM
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have you checked the idle air control for cleanliness?
have you checked the throttle body for cleanliness?
it sounds to me like the truck has a fuel delivery problem when cold, sorta like a improperly adjusted choke plate on a carbureted engine.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
have you checked the idle air control for cleanliness?
have you checked the throttle body for cleanliness?
it sounds to me like the truck has a fuel delivery problem when cold, sorta like a improperly adjusted choke plate on a carbureted engine.
yep pulled the throttle body and cleaned it. Did clean the IAC. I’ll try that and see if it helps.
 
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You're gunna have to do some testing to figure this out.
 
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Originally Posted by Bcham
yea getting it with KOEO.
……and KOER?
 
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