How's this 418W combo?
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don't worry about a cage, you won't need one. You have to run an 11.99 or quicker to require a roll cage as per NHRA rules, and your truck won't go that quick nomatter how much motor you put in it. You need a light vehicle with very low gears to eclipse that mark.
By the way, there was some interesting posting going on about the street spool issue. Many people are currently running a full spool in their 9" on the street with great success. The mini spools are the ones that grenade the differential, but a full spool is nearly as streetable as an open differential, and will never give any problems in the eyes of some. I've never run a spool, but it's an interesting point, and it's impossible to argue against somebody who's been doing it for years with no disasters.
By the way, there was some interesting posting going on about the street spool issue. Many people are currently running a full spool in their 9" on the street with great success. The mini spools are the ones that grenade the differential, but a full spool is nearly as streetable as an open differential, and will never give any problems in the eyes of some. I've never run a spool, but it's an interesting point, and it's impossible to argue against somebody who's been doing it for years with no disasters.
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I ran a mini spool in a 67 mustang on the street for years w/no problems. I would port match the intake, i would think that the ports are smaller than the ports on the 205's.Cam lift and duration are not the only indicaters as far as streetability as some are suggesting.Lobe centerline has a lot to do with the overall picture.The cam does not sound too big too me.The 750 is plenty big for what you have.Make sure you have some gear and a 3000 stall convertor or it will be a dog.Go with a 1 pc input shaft on the aod since the 2pc ones are weak.Sounds good to me!
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I won't argue the point as it is close in reality but yeah I have seen people run very close to that number, in a big old full bodied truck. With similar hp tq numbers, given the numbers I think his motor would make are guesstimates. Similar builds with less ci and poor flowing intakes have done those numbers to the ground. The potential is there. I love bench racing. Can you drive with a spool on the street? Yeah. NOone ever hear of people getting sideways driving normal speeds on the street. Especially when they were going around a corner. A locked up rear axle doesn't respond too well going around curves. haha. later
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Funny. Well I keep track of real world combos and look at similarities between a proposed combo versus a proven one. Accurate no but close enough. You need a car? They didn't mind my running down the track on foot, well until they stopped me. Later
On a side note, TorqueKing, what is that symbol in your avatar? Always wondered, decided to ask. Another ?, can the dyno software be downloaded of the internet should some one send it, and how might that go down? I used to a couple of years ago have this hot rod cd on an older windows computer you could setup a car from gas inline 4 to alcohol funny car. Pretty neat. later
On a side note, TorqueKing, what is that symbol in your avatar? Always wondered, decided to ask. Another ?, can the dyno software be downloaded of the internet should some one send it, and how might that go down? I used to a couple of years ago have this hot rod cd on an older windows computer you could setup a car from gas inline 4 to alcohol funny car. Pretty neat. later
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JW, trq's avatar looks like the deal from the band Disturbed
As far as spools, i never did get sideways in turns because i always was going pretty slow in turns, but otherwise i loved it.The chirping going around corners was cool.Now as far as putting one in a truck dont know about that.There are drawbacks to everything and it is what you are willing to put up with.Wet weather was a challenge!!
As far as spools, i never did get sideways in turns because i always was going pretty slow in turns, but otherwise i loved it.The chirping going around corners was cool.Now as far as putting one in a truck dont know about that.There are drawbacks to everything and it is what you are willing to put up with.Wet weather was a challenge!!
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I must be getting old, I don't think I have heard of that group. Oh man.
I thought your mention of having no trouble with a spool was kinda misleading. I just wanted people reading this to know there are drawbacks. I would hate for some one to say I read a spool is okay for the street, I can have full posi. Put it in go flying up the road and end up in a ditch or get hurt. know what I mean? As long as a person is comfortable and knows what they are giving up or gaining nothing wrong with getting a little radical. I understand your point, I also bet wet weather was fun as well. haha. So how do you like that v-10 I have yet to experience one? How would you compare it to say an old pushrod engine be it ford or chevy as I have had some experience with each, maybe I could get an idea of how it might perform, if there is even a comparison, as I imagine its a torque monster with no equal? Later
I must be getting old, I don't think I have heard of that group. Oh man.
I thought your mention of having no trouble with a spool was kinda misleading. I just wanted people reading this to know there are drawbacks. I would hate for some one to say I read a spool is okay for the street, I can have full posi. Put it in go flying up the road and end up in a ditch or get hurt. know what I mean? As long as a person is comfortable and knows what they are giving up or gaining nothing wrong with getting a little radical. I understand your point, I also bet wet weather was fun as well. haha. So how do you like that v-10 I have yet to experience one? How would you compare it to say an old pushrod engine be it ford or chevy as I have had some experience with each, maybe I could get an idea of how it might perform, if there is even a comparison, as I imagine its a torque monster with no equal? Later
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jw, man the V10 Triton is light years ahead of older engines, and this is coming from an old hotrodder.Check out my many posts in the V10 forum.I am doing the bolt on routine and getting good results.I guess i should of put stipulations in about the spool deal, i guess with a worm they could be dangerous.
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I thought they would be power makers. I will tell you an interesting story. I was talking to a fellow I knew one time. He was a truck driver that shipped ford v-10's. He said he took a shipment one time and saw one was left on the trailer, he checked shipping and they were all accounted for, he checked receiving end and they were all accounted for. He took it back anyway. I told him if that happens again I know a certain person who would give it a home. haha. Good luck with your truck, I will try and check out your posts
I thought they would be power makers. I will tell you an interesting story. I was talking to a fellow I knew one time. He was a truck driver that shipped ford v-10's. He said he took a shipment one time and saw one was left on the trailer, he checked shipping and they were all accounted for, he checked receiving end and they were all accounted for. He took it back anyway. I told him if that happens again I know a certain person who would give it a home. haha. Good luck with your truck, I will try and check out your posts
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good call on the avatar, it is the album cover for the band Disturbed. I bought my Dyno 2000, but if you lived anywhere near me I'd just give you my copy. You're in Kentucky, right? My brother plays football for UK, #67 Patrick Daly.
I like the V10's, because they're much better than the Dodge V10, but how about that fuel milage? Seems to me like if you needed that much Torque a diesel would be the way to go. I have relatives that pull horses, and their F-250 HD with a gigantic trailer still gets about 12-13 MPG with a PSD running 80 MPH while the family grocery-getter V10 Excursion gets 9-10 just flying chase.
I like the V10's, because they're much better than the Dodge V10, but how about that fuel milage? Seems to me like if you needed that much Torque a diesel would be the way to go. I have relatives that pull horses, and their F-250 HD with a gigantic trailer still gets about 12-13 MPG with a PSD running 80 MPH while the family grocery-getter V10 Excursion gets 9-10 just flying chase.
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I don't usually follow football, but I can say this. Don't get me started on UK and football. If you know what I mean? What was it last time, 7 over times or something like that? And they lost. I would like to say that is cool that your brother plays here. Who would have thought there would be a connection between, ford-trucks+georgia+KY. haha. later
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hows your project coming along? I had a thought the other day answering another post. Have you considered a roller setup, that would improve your odds of reaching your goal? On another board, someone mentioned crower had some linked roller lifters for non roller blocks that ran $299 I tried to find them myself but have yet. just a thought, later
hows your project coming along? I had a thought the other day answering another post. Have you considered a roller setup, that would improve your odds of reaching your goal? On another board, someone mentioned crower had some linked roller lifters for non roller blocks that ran $299 I tried to find them myself but have yet. just a thought, later
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I thought about a roller cam but decided on a custom grind Hydr flat tappet. I won't see full throttle too often so the flat tappet will work for me.
I still haven't found a block yet, but I'm going to go look at one after work....
I still haven't found a block yet, but I'm going to go look at one after work....
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Just a thought, I know you want to assemble your motor and all. I came across a couple of things of note. Central coast mustang out of CA has a shortblock 393 listed for $1995 assembled. That is all it stated so they, may or may not, charged a bundle more for a 418, they don't have a website but do have an e-mail address bigrdh@earthlink. net . IF your gonna blow all that money on a 418 you might as well go roller, smoother idle, more radical , more power, won you over yet? haha, J/K. Later
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