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1st). trying to see if anyone knows what the actual “name” is for these wheels?
2nd) has anyone had any issues with these wheels?
3rd) what are the correct fitting lug nuts?
now let me paint the story.
bought a ‘77 f250 drove it straight home. Rebuilt the engine, first drive after rebuilding & the wheel took a vacation Saturday 50 mph into oncoming traffic with 35in boggers……..Wrong lug nuts due to huge amounts of free space between the wheel and stud…. Lug nuts were torqued but evidently wanted to go to a tropical climate….Broke a stud , the other lugs left & the wheel hit eject…photos below.
never had any issues with wheels before but never had aluminum wheels with aftermarket lug nuts .
Any info / insight/ suggestions?
Also now looking for 77 fender& grill ….
The nuts you need are shank style and there are lots of variations. I just bought a set of them by Gorilla for my Western Cyclone wheels and they're probably the same as yours.
Measure the thickness of your wheel at the hole, the diameter of the hole and the thread will be 1/2x20.
All 8 nuts left their studs, no broken studs, holes in wheel still round?
We called them "aluminum slots".
Threads are 1/2"-20. What is the hole diameter ibn the wheel, and how thick is it there?
Looks like the holes are just straight drillings, no tapered seats?
If so, you'll need to use those that have washers, like you pictured.
7 of 8 left , the 8th stud broke.
holes in wheel still round,
yea bought some of the replacements to get it home, not sure I’ll have to measure to confirm.
& yea straight no tapering
The nuts you need are shank style and there are lots of variations. I just bought a set of them by Gorilla for my Western Cyclone wheels and they're probably the same as yours.
Measure the thickness of your wheel at the hole, the diameter of the hole and the thread will be 1/2x20.
so these photos are the shank ones I found that look like they would work.
the only issue I was concerned about was the space between the wheel and stud with a more skinny lug nut not centering the stud like an acorn nut would. Which would lead me to my next option of wheel nut bushings?
thanks
-matt
No all you need are the correct nuts and washers and you're good to go.
They fit the hold pretty close but they're not snug in it. if you check the thickness of the wheel in the hole and the diameter you can look at the listings and find the right ones. just be sure they're 1/2x20 and the shank is a little shorter than the thickness of you wheel.
Look at Gorilla part # 75187 . that's what my western Cyclone wheels used and I think it's pretty common on this vintage wheel.
Glad you are ok, the rims are commonly called Slots, Slotted Mags or just Mags. And I bet they are 16.5...And yes you only need the correct lug nut and washer and NO acorn on the end of the lug nut. So get the correct lug nut (called a mag seat w/washer) for a (flat /mag seat) rim and the lug nut part goes INSIDE the rim. Because of the thickness of the rim face and the rim design, you can not and are not suppose to use acorn end lug nuts. Problems are you can get corrosion from the steel washer and aluminum rim. And they are know to NOT hold their torque. SO check them often and I have even seen a guy use purple (low strength) Loc-tite on them before.
Slotted (mags) or turbine/slots aluminum wheel lug nut info. Gorilla Automotive 75187 - Gorilla Lug Nuts Summit racing • $10.99 Lug Nuts, Shank with Washer, 1/2 in. x 20 RH, Closed End, Chrome Plated Steel, Set of 4 Brand Gorilla Automotive Manufacturer's Part Number 75187 Part Type Lug Nuts Product Line Gorilla Lug Nuts Summit Racing Part Number GOR-75187 Lug Nut Thread Size 1/2-20 RH in. Lug Nut Seat Style Shank Lug Nut Head Style Standard Open End Design No Lug Nut Shank Length (in) 1.000 in. Lug Nut Shank Diameter (in) 0.740 in. Washer Included Yes Washer Shape Centered round Washer Outside Diameter (in) 1.125 in. Lug Nut Material Steel Lug Nut Overall Length (in) 2.000 in. Wrench Size Required (in) 7/8 in. Lug Nut Finish Chrome Quantity Sold as a set of 4. The Gorilla #75187 lug nuts are the correct fit for your aluminum slotted mags. They have the correct 1.000" shank length and .740" shank diameter to properly fit your wheel. Be certain to buy the correct part number, Gorilla also makes the same lug nut in a .750" shank length and .685" shank diameter #73187, while these will "work".. the wheel will not be properly centered. correct: Gorilla 75187 Chrome Duplex Mag Lug Nuts 1 2 in x 20 RH | eBay incorrect: Gorilla 73187 Chrome Std MAG Lug Nuts 1 2 in x 20 RH | eBay You can also buy these locally at most parts stores.
Also if you do not have faith in them, time to get some new/different 16" or 17" rims that use the acorn lug nut. And you will have a ton more tire options.
Polish those up and they'd look pretty old school cool. I love vintage correct wheels.
need help lol
i have polished those for hours (white residue on the tires) I’ve used mothers,never dull, acid wash, 0000 steel wool with no luck.
the next step was the large wheels and brick polish (photo)
thanks
matt
Glad you are ok, the rims are commonly called Slots, Slotted Mags or just Mags. And I bet they are 16.5...And yes you only need the correct lug nut and washer and NO acorn on the end of the lug nut. So get the correct lug nut (called a mag seat w/washer) for a (flat /mag seat) rim and the lug nut part goes INSIDE the rim. Because of the thickness of the rim face and the rim design, you can not and are not suppose to use acorn end lug nuts. Problems are you can get corrosion from the steel washer and aluminum rim. And they are know to NOT hold their torque. SO check them often and I have even seen a guy use purple (low strength) Loc-tite on them before.
Slotted (mags) or turbine/slots aluminum wheel lug nut info. Gorilla Automotive 75187 - Gorilla Lug Nuts Summit racing • $10.99 Lug Nuts, Shank with Washer, 1/2 in. x 20 RH, Closed End, Chrome Plated Steel, Set of 4 Brand Gorilla Automotive Manufacturer's Part Number 75187 Part Type Lug Nuts Product Line Gorilla Lug Nuts Summit Racing Part Number GOR-75187 Lug Nut Thread Size 1/2-20 RH in. Lug Nut Seat Style Shank Lug Nut Head Style Standard Open End Design No Lug Nut Shank Length (in) 1.000 in. Lug Nut Shank Diameter (in) 0.740 in. Washer Included Yes Washer Shape Centered round Washer Outside Diameter (in) 1.125 in. Lug Nut Material Steel Lug Nut Overall Length (in) 2.000 in. Wrench Size Required (in) 7/8 in. Lug Nut Finish Chrome Quantity Sold as a set of 4. The Gorilla #75187 lug nuts are the correct fit for your aluminum slotted mags. They have the correct 1.000" shank length and .740" shank diameter to properly fit your wheel. Be certain to buy the correct part number, Gorilla also makes the same lug nut in a .750" shank length and .685" shank diameter #73187, while these will "work".. the wheel will not be properly centered. correct: Gorilla 75187 Chrome Duplex Mag Lug Nuts 1 2 in x 20 RH | eBay incorrect: Gorilla 73187 Chrome Std MAG Lug Nuts 1 2 in x 20 RH | eBay You can also buy these locally at most parts stores.
Also if you do not have faith in them, time to get some new/different 16" or 17" rims that use the acorn lug nut. And you will have a ton more tire options.
the eBay links were not working but the summit ones at the bottom link were what I was kind of looking at with an extra .38 of length on the shank while .69 diameter is not ideal and presumably what diameter is on it now with the 1 inch shank. Wrong threads obviously but the length profile more so, then find the correct threads
summit link- https://www.summitracing.com/parts/w...1412?rrec=true
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those are sweet looking.
yea I ventured down the YouTube rabbit hole but didn’t want to buy the round DI sander, I’ve got a square one already lol was trying the other ways that I thought would be easier but the sander looks like the only way
I've done a bunch of real truck wheels as well as wheels like my cyclones and I've found a 3" DA sander with 600 grit followewd by 1200 works best. then take a 3" circular with orange pads with buffing compound and water and give it a high polish followed by mothers. I'm sure there are numerous combinations that work but that's mine.
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