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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Angry Been in storage - wont start

Have a 2002 F250 SD has bveen in storage for three months and will not start. Truck ran great before I parked it.
I have installed new batts, drained/ purged fuel filter. fuel appears to be okay.

is there something i simple can do/try first before I take her in.
thx in advance Phil

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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Correction - 2000
engine cracks well but will not fire at all.
I can hear the fuel pump when the ingnition is turned on. the filter bowl get's filled.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Have you tried using WD-40 as a starting aid & are you getting white smoke from the tail pipe.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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not yet, spray WD40 direclty into airintake ?
any sensors or shut offs that may have been tripped or maybe fused to check that would not allow fuel to pump or soleniods that i could check ?

typo on my last reply - Cranks well ..not cracks ...lol

what about using a starter fluid ??? not a good idea ? too hot i supposes
 
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Ether is a bad idea, the glow plugs can ignite it with explosive results. The WD-40 is basically just pressurized kerosene and works well for cold starting diesels.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Check wiring around under hood just to make sure mice
haven't chewed through some of them, it happened to
me once. Haven't understood why they love wiring so
much.

 
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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good call, will check the wiring got lots of squirels here them seem to chew on everythign else around here that is plastic.
will give the WD40 a try tomarrow it's pouring rain right now.
thanks again. will let you know.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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starts when using WD40. but dies. no smoke from exhaust. seems to be a fuel issue. - yes ??
Checked all fuses.
Cheacks all wiring.
Getting feul to filter bowl. - puged many times.
Cheacked Fuel Shut Off switch as well.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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When you crank it does the tach move?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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yes, tach works.
I assume you suspect a Cam sensor failure ...replaced that about 30k ago.
engine will start & run aslong as you keep spraying in WD40 into the instake.
thanks for the reply.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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Have you checked oil level in the high pressure oil pump?

During initial start or cold start, the high-pressure oil pump receives unfiltered oil from the left side valve lifter oil gallery through the anti-drain back check ball valve. Once the engine starts or during warm engine starts, the check ball closes and the high-pressure oil pump receives filtered oil from the high-pressure oil pump reservoir. The high-pressure oil pump pumps the oil under extremely high pressures (4,115-20,577 kPa [600-3,000 psi]) through the left and right side high-pressure supply hoses to the high-pressure oil rails (integral to the cylinder heads). Once in the oil rail, the oil is fed to the fuel injector bores through four oil feed galleries drilled and machined in the cylinder head. The high-pressure oil then actuates the fuel injectors.
Make sure oil level is within 25.4 mm (1 inch) of inspection plug.

REFILL high-pressure oil pump reservoir. ATTEMPT to start engine. If engine starts and then stalls after about 15 seconds, the lubrication system is not supplying enough oil to the high-pressure oil pump. GO to Chart 14. If not, PERFORM KOEO Self Test

Check Oil Reservoir
CONFIRM SAE viscosity and API rating of oil. REMOVE oil reservoir fill plug and REFILL reservoir. START engine and TEST DRIVE vehicle for 16 km (10 miles). REMOVE oil reservoir fill plug and CHECK reservoir oil level. VERIFY reservoir is full. NOTE level. CHECK reservoir leak down.

Reservoir Leak Down
Note: Perform the following step before starting engine.
ALLOW vehicle to sit overnight. REMOVE oil reservoir fill plug and CHECK reservoir oil level. If oil level changed, CHECK for leaks. If not, GO to Chart 3.
 

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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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i've identified the high pressure pump. how to check on pump HP pump itself ?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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i've identified the high pressure pump. how to check on pump HP pump itself ?
I sent you a detailed e-mail.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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First I want to thank you ALL very much for taking the time to reply.
make a long story short I preformed many checks a tests and lastly the the HP oil pump process. still no change. ... Turned out to be infact a rodent caused problem. Yep ! that's right Skips !!
Turns out while at my witts end - I noticed two small dung droppings on top of the manifold tucked waaaay in the back. So, after looking very closely at all tight spaces I found some stored seeds and food supply tucked near rear of bell housing of trans and then located root cause atop the engine - a two wire assembly off the main wiring loom that fed a sensor located at the bottom part fuel filter housing (driver side) had been chewed thru just at the tip of the black corragated split loom. so it was unoticeable unless you really got your hands in there with a light and tugged and moved things around. So unplugged this connections and made a splice. of couse it was at the very bottom and difficult to reach but little sucker left me just enough wire to make a decent splice. LOL engine fired right up like a champ. I knew my ol'gal wouldn't let me down. :-)
So after careful inpections of all the other wiring found only a couple other small chew marks found. nothing too bad to cause alarm. Unreal huh ?
Kudos to Skips97 - he called it on his post - to check for rodent chewings. but even though I checked and figured I would have noticed more sign and debris & crap that a rodent had infact attempted to make refuge under the hood. I missed it on the first go.

Oh well ! chaulk that one up - lesson learned !! just glad it was only minor damage he could have made it costly if other looms were damaged and chewed up.

Thanks Again everyone for your for your help !!
Adios Phil
 
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