I'm like Pro. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

In lieu of those snow claws . . . run tires threaded for studs.

 

When i first bought my truck i was 4x2. I wheeled for years with it in that configuation. get some good mud tires in the rear and lock it up. BUT, and i am sure this has been mentioned before (Sorry! its 4 pages of stuff!), why not find a TTB Dana 44 and stick it in your truck? They are easy to find and cheep. Also grab a trasfer case (manual shift) and modify your trans to accept it or get a new trans. If you can turn a wrench, its not hard at all! BUT as far as having fun in 4x2, it can be done! Just things go by a little faster if you catch my drift! Bring a buddy with a long strap and 4x4 if you can for when you get stuck! Forget steep hills. You aint going to do it with all that weight up fnt and nothing pulling it. You can get a running start....but do you what to replace ball joints, radius arm busings, and pivital bushings every 6 months! haha.....just my 2 cents! Check out my artical on the 4x4 conversion......I wrote that back what it was more fresh in my head...been a few years!

 

Not exactly true. My ranger has the power to take off at a light, the only problem have is spinning the backtires. Now if i kicked in 4x4 with a 4x2 ranger right beside me with the same engine and gears, i would pull away while he sat there burning the tires. If 4x4 is bad on pavement then why are all the new sports cars 4x4 or AWD?

 

Those AWD/4WD cars aren't the same as offroad 4wd. Look up some of them on a tech site. There has been some fulltime 4wd jeeps and fords over the years, but they had there probs. Cars generally only have 1 or 2 wheels pulling based on what the car senses. As far as Bronco, F150, F250 etc. on dry pavement, binding and breakage . . . this also applies to Chevets and Dodgie things.

 

You may beat him off the line...but have you lifted a transfer case and TTB fnt axle lately?!?! They aint that light. You would have, at least about a 300 to 400 lb weight disadvantage. Not to mention air resistance, and drive line drag...but this is hunting ants with a shot gun.....oversimplifying.

 

Im just sayin i dont see any advantage to 4x2 besides price and weight. I mena you can have fun with a 4x2 but dont say that they will out perform a 4x4. Ask themilitary which is better. They dont have 4x2 hummers do they?

 

I agree....you can have a blast in a 4x2! I have been there, done that. BUT you will get to places in a 4x4 that you will never get too in a 4x2. Period. End discussion. The 4 turning wheels will give you more mechanical advantage over the laws of physics then just 2. Going with the last point brought up, how many 4x2 competition rock buggies have you seen? They (4x4's) are just more capable anyway you shake a stick at it. Take a 4x4 Super Duty and a 4x2 Super Duty, both with 7.3 PSD’s and run them side by side in the mud (not that you ever would). You tell me which one will get farther before that 1200lb motor takes over..............and i agree....why is this even an issue (other then just to make a discussion which is fine)? It is very obvious the difference of a 4x2 and a 4x4 when you drive both....that should speak for its self. that was more of a $1.25's worth there.......

 

Thank God we seem to be getting more commen sense interjected into this thread.......I was about ready to throw my keyboard through the window when I saw this thread pop back up...

 

Sorry, but I did not mean that a 4 wheel drive can't go as far as a two wheel drive. But most people, without any common sense, think that just because they have 4 wheel drive they can go anywhere. I was simply stating that the 2 wheel drive will go just as far, with those modifications, as a similarly equipped 4x4. With 600 lbs less weight, darn near equal ground clearance(under the driveline, where it counts) you have just as good a chance as anything.

 

I agree, the driver has almost as much to do with it as the vehicle, however if... nevermind. This thread has already gone too far.

 

OMG......IT IS BACK !!!.....PLEASE, MAKE IT STOP!

listen everybody, i hate to bust your bubble but a 2-wheel drive whatever will not make it as far as a similarly equipped 4x4! (in actuality w/o lockers it is actually 1-wheel drives and 2-wheel drives).

if anyone....anyone at all disagrees with me come down to my land this weekend and we will for sure see. I have a mud hole in the woods where some local boys play with 44's and have it rutted out real nicely (yes 85351ho...that is you ) cause i really, really wanna see this almighty '2-wheel drive' make it as far as a 4x4!
-jason-



END OF THREAD...

 

Yea, right. I only wish it were that easy........I woulda finished off this lame discussion on the first page...

To be honest...I still can't really comprehend the debate in the first place...

 

Dang, the snowclaw guy has only made one post on FTE.


Now its THE END OF THREAD

 

Hmm...guy just asked if he woulda ben able to off road his 2wd, and a few of us encouraged him sayin jsut do the right mods and a locker, and WA-LA!! it started

 

4X2 or like most of them, 4X1 w/t no locker LS is a huge help in either! But for someone to say that 2W is better than 4W is nuts, your just thinking about spinning, and more than likely in circles. 4X4 in off road conditions don't have acceleration in the front to assist in turning power (only offered with front wheel turning) And 4W can traverse any grade so much better than any 2W. I have been building major construction projects for over 25 years, Like state parks, and Dams. A hell of a lot of building in between. And I can tell you when the playing or having fun stops, and the work starts, you better leave that 4x2 parked. 4X2 don't fair real well when they have to back a trailer into a tight spot, with a load. And your sitting in 6 inches of mud everywhere. 4X2's, you cant navigate everywhere you want hall-in but. Not in real world work. People can get hurt. 4X4s can put turning traction in the front and rear and move the loads, and if need be drop it down into 4L and you own the construction site! 4X2's it doesn't matter if you have huge tires or not, you wont get it done! And it cost a lot of money in the industrial construction end, to replace the trans in 2W ers. The myth that they can go places that 4X4 cant, is a kids joke. I have had my 4X4 SD in places I didn't want to be, heck 2W w/t lockers wouldn't make it, been there done that, and that was in the 70s L Throw 75% of your payload weight on your truck, then go hook up to a trailer. Now go everywhere you did with out it, I can! You cant. Its not your fault, its your truck 2W IS 2W Myth wont bring that check home on Friday! The Trucks, that FORD makes are work trucks, even the little rangers. But 4X4's are 4X4.LS or not, the point is you have a wheel up front pulling and one in the back pushing. That is what gets it done. My Son has a 2WD 150 and he has went out on my mining job in San Bernardino Mountains. Like most kids he needs to learn through experience. Well having said that, JJ my boy, was going to work for me for a week, and he wanted his truck, I told him before we left to leave his 2W and he wanted none of that. I'm sure you can see where this is going. lol Well I wanted to stop by the office and let him take a SD 4X4 so he wouldn't have to deal with snow, ice mud large rocks ect... Well, we got up there and he pulled over a few times before ewe got to the site and was complaining about the snow. Well I told him if it gets any worse you'll need to get some chains. Well as it turned out he didn't need them until mid week, but he got stuck 3 4 times a day in the mud. He finally parked his truck. Well to be fair, he did have fun in it in thin mud, but he could take it everywhere he wanted. Well he wanted to use my truck to go into Lake Arrowhead! Hell No I said! He wanted 4X4 the snow was coming down bad. But I had graders, dozers to check in with and concrete crews scattered all over the place, and My supper up there was sick and at home. We had to get the roads in for the Miners! Well he said he would take his truck, well he just about made it to town. One problem snow was now coming down harder and nearing white out, so he had to go real slow, real slow in 2WD on ice and Packed snow up and down hills isn't going to happen with out chains on those mountain roads. Chains is a must! He slid off the road a few times, he hit rocks on the side of the mountain roads, well to some it up he had trashed his truck. Why he is a kid and thinks he knows everything. Now! he has the same truck, but never takes it off road. He finally turned it around and came back to the job site. And said Dad, I want to go home....BS how about some work..... He got it stuck all over the Job to... It cost him about 2500 bucks to get it all fixed.

I'm going to sound like a kid here but what the heck, I can go places in my F550 4X4 you cant see from your 2W much less drive close to them. lol Just be careful out there, anything can happen! Heck off road race-in is so fun to watch, and I didn't know they do it with 2WD. But I guess they do? Didn't know that!

Bottom line with trucks is this, lots a truck out there, and they cant all do the same things! If your going to say I have the best off road truck ever, then you need to specify what your talking about. Sand dunes, mountain truck, mudders, baha, WORK TRUCKS that do all that with a load will never win a race, not even falling off a cliff........Cya ltr