So, what's keeping manufacturers from using them? Makes me wonder if they need to come up with a completely new engine, due to refactoring the supporting processes of intake and exhaust (due to the piston efficiency)?

 

They are a brand new technology and the SOA guy in the video explains why to the question you just asked... I have to watch the rest as the point I was at was where he started to address this... the big 3 have billions invested in diesel engine technology. These pistons will keep the emissions components on the modern emissions equipped trucks cleaner, hence not only will the emissions components last longer, so will the engines. If guys get their bought and paid for truck's engines rebuilt with these pistons, they won't need a new truck.

A set of these pistons is $3700, so there's that... But looking ahead to the future, this technology will continue to improve and could possibly help the OEMs meet and exceed future emissions requirements without after exhaust treatments but I think this technology will have to prove itself first. I suggest you watch the video. It's an informative and interesting watch. I'm thinking of starting a new thread on this.

EDIT The SOA guy said that the OEMs have billions of dollars invested in the after gas treatment technologies, so they are not just going to say "Ok forget about that... We'll move onto these new pistons"

That makes total sense... So I think these pistons are a great option for guys, myself included, who want to rebuild or even upgrade their engines with them if they are long term trucks and who don't want to spend $80k plus on a new truck.

These will also make obsolete engines viable again, especially in places like California, so that older mills will meet and probably exceed the CARB emissions standards.

He said that will be going for SEMA verification or whatever term he used, with 2 identical 2016 GM LML blocks but one will have the SOA pistons in it. Next will come a CARB EO number... It will be interesting following this into the future.

Thanks to Stoned for putting this on my radar.

One more thing, they will not only be the first SEMA verified piston and CARB certified piston but they will be the first EPA Clean Diesel certified piston as well. They are currently working on all of that now he stated.

 

Interesting stuff, for sure! Thanks for the reply, I didn't get a chance to watch the video for long, but will do so while eating lunch.

 

No problem...

He also said they are new working on Tier 4 kits for big trucks that are considered obsolete in Cali with the CARB standards... He said they wouldn't be able to get there with just pistons but said they have a patent on a new turbo design. The kit would also include a ECM reflash and would use a light substrate as an after gas treatment -- a DOC. It would go through CARB certification as well.

He owns a 2005 Duramax pickup and they are working on getting it Tier 4 certified as well and they will be working with CARB on that so it seems guys with older big rigs as well as pickups currently considered obsolete by those standards have a future in CARB states now that these will be option.

He stated that once they certify the OEMs older engines as Tier 4 compliant, they will probably get interest from the OEMs... Looks like a future so bright, gotta wear shades... 😎

 

Anyone remember the Pouge , or pogue, or however it was spelled, carb? Supposedly 100 MPG. This was late 70's, early 80's and was in magazines and such, then GONE! Rumor has it that Petro companies bought the patent and buried it, never to be seen again. If these piston do what is claimed, who knows if they will ever make it to market.

 

They're already for sale...


https://www.summitracing.com/search/...t-type/pistons

https://soapistons.com/

https://dfcdiesel.com/

 

Like i said when first talking about the new piston technology, never gonna happen. We will never see these pistons in any new truck anywhere.

it is counterproductive to the ones running our country into the ground.

the objective of the emissions equipment is not to clean the air or reduce our carbon footprints. Its to increase the purchase price of the truck and to make the use of the truck more expensive. The foot on our heads theory.
all goods are moved by diesel power. Make the cost of moving the goods higher and the cost of everything inflates unnaturally. Objective complete.

u can disagree with me all day. But this piston technology has been around for awhile now. Where are they in new super dutys, rams, or sierra/slvrdos?

$3,700 is peanuts. Less the. The cost of the dpf system. 10spd transmission? For what? All they needed was new pistons for more power and efficiently.

makes no sense other then, we will never see them in our new trucks.


if it was possible to alter our trucks to run %1,000 clean without the factory emissions equipment, we would still be in trouble for altering the emissions systems even though we improved and made them cleaner.
its not about the actual results coming out of the tailpipe.

 

Gotta be honest here Stoned but unless I hit the lottery, i really could give a **** about the latest and greatest... My truck is now paid for, has sentimental value, having no issues... So I'm good running my truck and possibly having a set in my engine in the future...

Im not going to argue with you but with what I said up there besides, i disagree with you. Time will tell the tale though... I could be WRONG... If I am, I'll still be driving my 16.