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Old Aug 11, 2023 | 11:55 AM
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I cannot speak for DEF usage on anything prior to the 20 MY but I know when I went from MA to FL back in November I had a full tank of DEF when I left and I had to fill it when I arrived in FL 3 days later. I was towing my 5er , about 13k the whole time and I used roughly the same ammount of DEF on the return trip.
19 is about the same. Unloaded I can get 6-7K miles, towing, 1-3K miles.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2023 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
this guy put into question how effective these catch can solutions are and he was right…

also, there is a thing called a seperator which is different than a catch can
https://youtu.be/IZYYdnwIEX0
Well, now that your meth is installed, maybe now you can get us data on the steam cleaning! LOL
 
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Old Aug 11, 2023 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
this guy put into question how effective these catch can solutions are and he was right…

also, there is a thing called a seperator which is different than a catch can
https://youtu.be/IZYYdnwIEX0
What's weird to me is that this guy is collecting water in his catch cans in seemingly warm weather but when looking at the comments, someone mentioned the humidity which makes sense to me. While it can get humid here in New York, probably not as bad as where he seems to be... one shirt he had on said Texas so maybe that's where he is... that would explain all the water.

I usually don't see that amount of water during the non-winter months but during the cooler nights of springtime and even in the fall, I see some. In the hot weather of summer, my Mishimoto can only collects oil...

Thanks for the video.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2023 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz


I had to go out to my truck and check for any blocked ports!!!!!



BWHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
Hopefully one day Ford will plumb post DPF exhaust for the EGR intake so there will no carbon build up in the intake track.
cant.

NOXs are the inert gas required for egr to work. NOXs are removed in the scr.


the purpose of the egr is to bring in inert gas to reduce combustion/burn temps to reduce NOXs. By product is more soot bc of the lower combustion/burn temps.


unless the exhaust after the scr & dpf is inert. But i dont think it is.


egr as we know it on diesel will stay problematic until the government decides to let the diesel industry use the new piston technology. But that will never happen bc it will make owning and driving a diesel less expensive. And that would go against the reason we have all this emission nonsense.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 05:53 AM
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The main reason why Post-DPF EGR flow will not happen is because lack of pressure, post DPF. Exhaust drive pressure must overcome boost pressure to allow any EGR Flow.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by StonedGrey
cant.

NOXs are the inert gas required for egr to work. NOXs are removed in the scr.


the purpose of the egr is to bring in inert gas to reduce combustion/burn temps to reduce NOXs. By product is more soot bc of the lower combustion/burn temps.


unless the exhaust after the scr & dpf is inert. But i dont think it is.


egr as we know it on diesel will stay problematic until the government decides to let the diesel industry use the new piston technology. But that will never happen bc it will make owning and driving a diesel less expensive. And that would go against the reason we have all this emission nonsense.
Please elaborate on the new piston technology you refer to.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 05:12 PM
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Speed Of Air pistons.


 
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hoerunner
The main reason why Post-DPF EGR flow will not happen is because lack of pressure, post DPF. Exhaust drive pressure must overcome boost pressure to allow any EGR Flow.

exactly……..

 
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 01:40 PM
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Ok. So CO2 is the resulting gas after the SCR. CO2 is inert. So the after treatment exhaust gas in theory could work to reduce combustion temps.

as others have stated, the boost pressures become an issue for how to get said after treated exhaust gasses into the cylinders. This would require a pump that could flow up to half the cfm of the engines displacement at idle and at pressures above 25psi or whatever stock boost pressures are when driving. This would take an incredible pump to achieve this.

Its not realistic.

 
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 03:37 PM
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May be some non traditional answers for this.


note on this intake…there is a 45 degree angle which in my mind could result in a pull …..and if you do the reverse on the exhuast after the dpf…you might get a push. Net result…clean exhuast would go thru egr….instead of the soot cloud we have now.






 
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Old Aug 22, 2023 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slowmans
I cannot speak for DEF usage on anything prior to the 20 MY but I know when I went from MA to FL back in November I had a full tank of DEF when I left and I had to fill it when I arrived in FL 3 days later. I was towing my 5er , about 13k the whole time and I used roughly the same ammount of DEF on the return trip.
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19 is about the same. Unloaded I can get 6-7K miles, towing, 1-3K miles.
My DEF tank is 5 gallons in my truck... I know they increased the tank size moving forward....

My daily driving routine gets me about the same you @acdii but you MY20 plus guys @slowmans , I hear you dudes use more DEF than the older gens like us...
 
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Old Aug 22, 2023 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
My DEF tank is 5 gallons in my truck... I know they increased the tank size moving forward....

My daily driving routine gets me about the same you @acdii but you MY20 plus guys @slowmans , I hear you dudes use more DEF than the older gens like us...

And get better MPG, more than likely also due to using more DEF and fewer full regens.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2023 | 07:31 PM
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And get better MPG, more than likely also due to using more DEF and fewer full regens.
Yep, plus having four more gears keeping the engine in the power band using less fuel also...
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by StonedGrey
Thanks for posting that... I've watched the Diesel Podcast many times but have never seen that one. The fact that SOA pistons can not only reduce emissions, by making combustion more efficient and complete, but reducing soot up to 55%, making more power AND increasing fuel mileage all at the same time is just crazy. This would actually reduce the need for exhaust emissions treatments like EGR and keep the DPFs cleaner which would require less regens to save not only time but money too. But if the combustion process could be close to 100%, that would possibly negate the need for a particulate filter at all. Fascinating video to watch...
 
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