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Old Oct 17, 2022 | 05:14 AM
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I was reading an article the other day I believe on Motor biscuit IIRC and it stated that over one third of of the new F-series owners are paying over $1000 per month in payments.

To me, this sounds so ludicrous that I don't even have an opinion.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2022 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
I was reading an article the other day I believe on Motor biscuit IIRC and it stated that over one third of of the new F-series owners are paying over $1000 per month in payments.

To me, this sounds so ludicrous that I don't even have an opinion.
with price of lariats and above frequently going over 70k, and interest rating closing on 10%, that’s entirely realistic if one only puts down 10-20k, if that. The truck buyers of today expect all sorts of features and car makers know it and finance companies are only to happy to oblige. That’s the consequence of walking into the dealership with the mentality of “I deserve …” without the means to write the check.

 
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I think something very important to consider about reliability across the segment is that most everything is built to not cost much of anything in repairs for the first 100,000 miles. Where the Asian auto makers outshine Detroit is after the first 100,000 miles and beyond.

I've owned four F-150's, '84,'86, '88 and my 2011. The '88 should have been burned to the ground and crushed upon assembly, pure junk from jump. I did log 225K miles on that truck but with two engines and endless component changes.

My 2011 to date has been the most reliable vehicle that I've ever owned. It still feels new with 116K on the clock.

I recently sold the '04 Expedition in my signature for $3000. It was a 4x2 with the 4.6L. The truck had 143K on the clock and we bought it new. At 80K miles it needed a fuel pump, it needed another fuel pump 20K miles later. Since then no issues. To me, the Expy drove and felt more like a truck than my truck. After I bought my 2011, I didn't like driving the Expy anymore.

The 2022 F-150 XL is a perfect fit for the aspiring truck buyer who wants a new truck without all the electronic gizmos on it. Get it with the 3.3L V-6 of the 5.0L, you're a winner either way. Sadly it's not as dressed up as the XLT or higher but it'll be reliable longer.
XL STX with the power equipment package is IMO the sweet spot for folks who aren’t too picky about seating positions. It’s the “power everything” of 20 years ago other than the seats and pedals.
 
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