2023 Super Duty WTF Thread
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Ideally I would have a 4x4 DRW OBS with 16+ F450 axles. The Godzilla is a good enough engine I would get a crate motor cause I've experienced towing with it. I LOVE my OBS. Jump in and drive no fancy butt warmers or miles of wiring to chase down issues with.
I have a starter, alternator, distributor pickup coil, ignition coil, fuel pressure regulator, cap & rotor and set of plugs behind my seat cause that is the only stuff that could ever fail besides my fuel pump but I'll have another tank to get me around until I can fix that pump.
It takes 6 quarts of oil and a $3.50 filter. Change different every 50k, transmission and transfer case at 35k cause its a manual trans with yellow metal synchro and they both take the same ATF.
I've replaced everything before it goes bad and never get stranded more than 30 minutes. You have to work a lot of hours to pay all the extra $$$$$ for the bells and whistles.
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My 22 STX has zero braking/lane changing/cruise emergency assit, manual tail gate, manual high beams, no automatic sidesteps, etc, not that different from the trucks of the 2000s. I hope ford keeps it that way so the XL line stays as basic as possible at a somewhat reasonable entry price, and charge as much as they wish for people with sensitive rear ends who can’t back up a trailer or get in their cab or bed on their own. The same truck I bought would be about 55k msrp by the time the 22 order window closed.
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Unpopular opinions here I guess, but I climb in and out of the corner of my bed with the tailgate down constantly during the day. It's kind of a pain and there really isn't a great place to grab on. The hand holds are a welcome idea that really affect little else, so why not.
Also, I definitely prefer the plastic bed rail caps over having them bedliner coated. Top edges have survived great over the years with them; top edges of a bed can take a real beating. Had trucks with the coating sprayed over, and that does absolutely nothing to protect them from impacts.
Anyway, carry on.
Also, I definitely prefer the plastic bed rail caps over having them bedliner coated. Top edges have survived great over the years with them; top edges of a bed can take a real beating. Had trucks with the coating sprayed over, and that does absolutely nothing to protect them from impacts.
Anyway, carry on.
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this is the innovation the buyers apparently want now, rather than say, quality control or parts availability. Just buy your truck on installment and roll your balance into a new one every three years, and don’t worry about the long term ownership cost.
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Also, I definitely prefer the plastic bed rail caps over having them bedliner coated. Top edges have survived great over the years with them; top edges of a bed can take a real beating. Had trucks with the coating sprayed over, and that does absolutely nothing to protect them from impacts.
Anyway, carry on.
Anyway, carry on.
I slid my kayak over the bedside 1 time and gouged a 1" long 1/16" deep curl out of the plastic cap. Plastic ends up in landfills and lakes and rivers and the side of the road from falling off GM products as they break from UV light. Metal is recyclable especially aluminum.
How long do you think those plastic caps will last the average person before they break?
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I've never fallen off the side of my truck when reaching for something precarious that the small hand hold would have helped me to not fall. If a full hand over the rail wasn't enough, I don't see how my finger tips would help me here.
I mean, I don't see a reason not to do it, but I'm also not seeing a personal use case.
I mean, I don't see a reason not to do it, but I'm also not seeing a personal use case.
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Literally a job for the stake pocket but they paid an engineer to design a "grab handle".
This is what the first price increase is going to cover. They didn't realize how many dies they would go through by putting a hole next to a perfectly good hole.
The tiny man in the video also made the plastic bumper step flex when he stepped on it. So glad they keep adding more plastic to these new vehicles.
This is what the first price increase is going to cover. They didn't realize how many dies they would go through by putting a hole next to a perfectly good hole.
The tiny man in the video also made the plastic bumper step flex when he stepped on it. So glad they keep adding more plastic to these new vehicles.
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The stake pocket hole won't be accessible for those who have a cover (soft or hard) over the bed. The frame will cover over the stake pocket hole. The cover manufacturers will have to design their frames to not block the hand grab meaning '23 MY will require a different cover than prior years.
I do not climb on the sides of my truck. Good way to scratch it up. Open the tailgate, climb in. Or use the bumper and climb over? Still seems like a solution to a problem that didn't exist.
Hard to come up with '23 WTF's until there is an order guide or build and price released. The looks are fine, it is a truck. The steps are gimmicky trash IMO.
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The trucks become taller and taller, now it is a competition to see which truck has the most innovative system to allow you to get into the bed (and cab) of that too tall truck.
Elevators can't be too far off.
Elevators can't be too far off.
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You're trying to group it all together, and to me that's not how it works. The Rugged American man is more of an XL, or even XLT kinda guy. The kinda guy that truly uses the truck for work. The Higher end model trucks, KR, Limited, Platinum, appeal to the RV guys and older generation that justify the cost of the features. Don't get me wrong, there are some guys that will buy the high end model and work out of them, but most of us can't do it.
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You're trying to group it all together, and to me that's not how it works. The Rugged American man is more of an XL, or even XLT kinda guy. The kinda guy that truly uses the truck for work. The Higher end model trucks, KR, Limited, Platinum, appeal to the RV guys and older generation that justify the cost of the features. Don't get me wrong, there are some guys that will buy the high end model and work out of them, but most of us can't do it.
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You're trying to group it all together, and to me that's not how it works. The Rugged American man is more of an XL, or even XLT kinda guy. The kinda guy that truly uses the truck for work. The Higher end model trucks, KR, Limited, Platinum, appeal to the RV guys and older generation that justify the cost of the features. Don't get me wrong, there are some guys that will buy the high end model and work out of them, but most of us can't do it.
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Unpopular opinions here I guess, but I climb in and out of the corner of my bed with the tailgate down constantly during the day. It's kind of a pain and there really isn't a great place to grab on. The hand holds are a welcome idea that really affect little else, so why not.
Also, I definitely prefer the plastic bed rail caps over having them bedliner coated. Top edges have survived great over the years with them; top edges of a bed can take a real beating. Had trucks with the coating sprayed over, and that does absolutely nothing to protect them from impacts.
Anyway, carry on.
Also, I definitely prefer the plastic bed rail caps over having them bedliner coated. Top edges have survived great over the years with them; top edges of a bed can take a real beating. Had trucks with the coating sprayed over, and that does absolutely nothing to protect them from impacts.
Anyway, carry on.
High trims retain more resale value. If you're not an idiot and can work out of it without destroying it you'll potentially get a better ROI than using a XL when it comes time to sell. If you have a bunch of guys on payroll running the trucks then yeah, get the low trims because they will care very little about what happens to it.
