Lightning getting new battery design in 2024
I learned a long time ago that if you wait for the Next Big Thing®, you’ll be in the grave before making a move. There’s always something better on the horizon, which is the great part about living in such a fast-moving tech landscape.
For me, it’s all about whether the product fits my needs at the moment when a purchase makes sense. Ten years ago, EVs were niche vehicles that imposed a significant compromise for those who replaced ICE cars with them. Today, it’s the opposite where EVs are far more convenient for 99% of the average buyer’s daily use. That’s a bit lower for truck buyers, but still the majority in my opinion. Automotive NMC and LFC batteries are already demonstrated to last for the life of the vehicle while proving to be a relatively minor inconvenience for road trips along major routes. It only gets better from here.
For me, it’s all about whether the product fits my needs at the moment when a purchase makes sense. Ten years ago, EVs were niche vehicles that imposed a significant compromise for those who replaced ICE cars with them. Today, it’s the opposite where EVs are far more convenient for 99% of the average buyer’s daily use. That’s a bit lower for truck buyers, but still the majority in my opinion. Automotive NMC and LFC batteries are already demonstrated to last for the life of the vehicle while proving to be a relatively minor inconvenience for road trips along major routes. It only gets better from here.
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We appreciate you sharing your thoughts and comments with us. I too have been following the development of solid state batteries, mostly by Toyota. They have taken a strong business stance in filling for patents as they develop the technology.
I don't know if a consumer version of a solid state battery will be ready in 2025, but that is exciting to think about. Similarly, I had read about EV range being increased to the 500 - 550 mile range around 2025, so perhaps there is some insight there to ponder.
Today we went shopping and drove about 120 miles since we live in the country. As we stopped at a fuel station on the way out of town, it took me 198 seconds from the time I opened the door to the time I closed the door to fuel up to full from 1/8th tank. This brought the range of our 2016 Escape back to 450 - 500 miles.
I am not naive enough to think solid state batteries will get us to ultra fast (5 minutes or less) recharge rates in 2025, but it is a start.
Again, good to have you with us.
We appreciate you sharing your thoughts and comments with us. I too have been following the development of solid state batteries, mostly by Toyota. They have taken a strong business stance in filling for patents as they develop the technology.
I don't know if a consumer version of a solid state battery will be ready in 2025, but that is exciting to think about. Similarly, I had read about EV range being increased to the 500 - 550 mile range around 2025, so perhaps there is some insight there to ponder.
Today we went shopping and drove about 120 miles since we live in the country. As we stopped at a fuel station on the way out of town, it took me 198 seconds from the time I opened the door to the time I closed the door to fuel up to full from 1/8th tank. This brought the range of our 2016 Escape back to 450 - 500 miles.
I am not naive enough to think solid state batteries will get us to ultra fast (5 minutes or less) recharge rates in 2025, but it is a start.
Again, good to have you with us.
I learned a long time ago that if you wait for the Next Big Thing®, you’ll be in the grave before making a move. There’s always something better on the horizon, which is the great part about living in such a fast-moving tech landscape.
For me, it’s all about whether the product fits my needs at the moment when a purchase makes sense. Ten years ago, EVs were niche vehicles that imposed a significant compromise for those who replaced ICE cars with them. Today, it’s the opposite where EVs are far more convenient for 99% of the average buyer’s daily use. That’s a bit lower for truck buyers, but still the majority in my opinion. Automotive NMC and LFC batteries are already demonstrated to last for the life of the vehicle while proving to be a relatively minor inconvenience for road trips along major routes. It only gets better from here.
For me, it’s all about whether the product fits my needs at the moment when a purchase makes sense. Ten years ago, EVs were niche vehicles that imposed a significant compromise for those who replaced ICE cars with them. Today, it’s the opposite where EVs are far more convenient for 99% of the average buyer’s daily use. That’s a bit lower for truck buyers, but still the majority in my opinion. Automotive NMC and LFC batteries are already demonstrated to last for the life of the vehicle while proving to be a relatively minor inconvenience for road trips along major routes. It only gets better from here.
We are fortunate enough in my family to wait to see what is the next best thing, all while evaluating the current best thing.
Perfect statement!
Originally Posted by Tom with my changed for your
It's all about whether the product fits your needs at the moment.
As always Tom, it is a pleasure to be engaged in a discussion with you.
Thanks! Glad to be here. Ford and BMW (funny partnership) are now both board members of a solid state mfg company (bought in board members) as well has major stock holders, Both have stated the 2025 year, which is funny because that is the same year Toyota says it will bring out the hybrid with solid state bats. It looks like 2025 may be the magic year. Toyota (i'm sure you've read the articles) spokesman made a "slip-of-the-tongue" comment to Car and Driver, something along the lines of ",...2025 maybe sooner" Everyone picked up on the "maybe sooner" (it even effected trading). My take on it is Toyota has over 1000 patents on solid state bats, and has committed over 16 Billion dollars to the solid state mfg plant-I don't think they are still in development. That "aint" the kind of money one spends on a Pilot Plant! Ford is ready to "convert" to solid state, as soon as. My heart goes out to those guys buying wet tech, it reminds me of the old eight track tape/players. It really did not matter how good they were, when cassettes hit the market, you couldn't give an 8 track away (for those of us old enough to remember). I'm not one to "bet on the come line", but as Toyota has numerous prototypes driving all over Japan now, it can't be considered a dream of the future anymore, it's coming like a tidal wave. BTW, the Toyota solid state prototypes, 10 min charge (or so they claim). Ten minutes for me isn't a problem, plug in, get coffee, pay, done, Two or more hours would be a problem, for me, I can't speak for other people, but I'm sure I'm not alone.
Another more modern analogy was the laser disc to DVD evolution... Same thing, you could not give those LD players or discs away.
As for BMW and Ford being in bed, business deals will bring about some interesting partnerships. After all, it is just business...
As I just wrote above in the response to Tom, our needs dictate that either range increases or recharge time decreases. The technology Toyota is developing shows great promise in one or both of those categories.
Another more modern analogy was the laser disc to DVD evolution... Same thing, you could not give those LD players or discs away.
As for BMW and Ford being in bed, business deals will bring about some interesting partnerships. After all, it is just business...
Another more modern analogy was the laser disc to DVD evolution... Same thing, you could not give those LD players or discs away.
As for BMW and Ford being in bed, business deals will bring about some interesting partnerships. After all, it is just business...
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