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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 06:04 PM
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Zf6 jammed up

It will turn in neutral but in gear its jammed. Took case off all i found was chewed up plastic and low gear has heat discoloration?? Any ideas gurus?


Looks like it took some heat.is that the granny low gear? Is there something plastic in there?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 07:44 PM
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Never seen the guts of one on here so idk

That said I have jammed up a 4speed DougNash before when I accidentally shifted it into 2 gears at the same time by moving the external linkage on a shorter throw modification.

Everything good with the shifter?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 08:24 PM
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Its internal rail shifter. I bought trans,with tranny removed but it goes in neutral 3&4 when i push rail with pry bar
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 11:03 AM
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Which gear shaft won't turn while it's in neutral?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 11:12 AM
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I think they all turn in neutral. If i put in gear it wont turn
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 12:34 PM
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The bigger of the two gears on the mainshaft is friction-welded to the shift collar where it should turn freely given the position of the shift collar. No matter which gear you put it in, there will always be a bind between the selected gear and first because that collar is splined to the mainshaft.

I suspect that you'll be putting A LOT of money in this transmission since you need a mainshaft as well as any of the related pieces of that shift mechanism and gear. Any excess heating of the shaft is not good. The countershaft is also ruined due to the unwanted "heat treating" of that gear.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 05:55 PM
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Butthead is correct. Transmission is toast..edited
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 10:08 PM
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I'd never take advise from a guy names himself Butthead...NEXt!
What if his name was Beavis?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 10:33 PM
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Only smart Beavis. the one who scored with Serena.

 
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Originally Posted by 97vanswap
I'd never take advise from a guy names himself Butthead...NEXt!
Originally Posted by 97vanswap
Only smart Beavis. the one who scored with Serena.
😂 I just watched that this past weekend. Man it brought back some memories.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 11:22 PM
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Ha me too.feels like another life time.

I just bought trans to play with and maybe convert a 2wd to 4wd. The tail housing is good. I was hoping mainshaft was salvageable but probably no roller bearings left and journal is chewed up. Now i need to find a deep reach puller. At least 11" reach. Kinna expensive for one time use.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 09:19 AM
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Well countershaft is no good i guess even without the heating i think. Part that engages. Reverse idler is worn.waiting on puller to be delivered for further post mortem.
 
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What if his name was Beavis?
It would say 'Beavis' under his username.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 12:54 PM
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Well his other name is Cletus. Guy is doubling down.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 03:04 PM
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Just get a rebuilt unit. That gear is toasted. Like everyine said most likely the shafts too as it transferred heat.
 
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