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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 11:03 AM
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Correcting Camper Squat

I know camper squat is a bit subjective based on the specific truck and camper. I wanted to get some feedback on my situation before ordering anything.

I have a Ford Tremor F-350 with an Outfitter Apex camper that I full time in. I've been full-timing in this rig since October '21 (and the camper is always in the bed). I spend 99% of my time living in national forests and only really touch pavement to restock on groceries or relocate to a new area (so plenty of rocky roads). I've modified the camper itself a bit to have a 70-gallon water tank (removed black). As a result, when fully stocked my bed squats about 1/2" below the front. As a result, if I happen to drive at night I get flashed constantly.

Current mods: I haven't done much to the truck's suspension other than add a sway bar. Also notably, the Tremor package has "off-road" shocks; however I don't have the details on them.

It seems the most recommended next step I've seen on here is Torklift Upper Stableloads. Would that be the recommended step to reduce squat in this situation?

Thank you for any advice/expertise.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 12:25 PM
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I find these to work pretty well on my F-350 They have held up well over thousands of miles. They engage the upper overload spring much sooner, and as a result they substantially reduce sag.

https://www.superspringsinternational.com/superstops/
 
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 12:28 PM
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Go air bags. Most class C type motorhomes run them for a reason. You can fine tune the height and ride.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 12:58 PM
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Have you tried simply aiming the headlights lower. Many of these trucks come with the headlights aimed too high to begin with and that just gets worse with a load in the bed.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 01:15 PM
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I'll look into Superstops as well. I hadn't looking into those yet. Thanks 1980CJ7!

Ray, I'm trying to avoid airbags. Most of my driving is on rough forest roads and airbags often give that boinga-boinga effect. I've spoken with a number of truck camper folk who have moved away from airbags after installing.

Conanski, in the short term I'm aiming my beams lower. I plan to adjust them later today as I will have to do some night driving over the weekend. I figured with the rear wheel well sitting lower than the fronts I probably need to address the squat as well.

 
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 02:54 PM
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Definitely recommend the Torklift Upper Stableloads. I would bet that will solve your issue.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 03:21 PM
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My experience with the Super Spring Stops is with an F350 SRW loaded with 3k pin weight of my 5th wheel. After installing the stops, the back of my truck sat an inch higher with the same load. I didn't go with the TorkLift stops because they are pretty much non adjustable. You can trim them slightly so that they aren't engaged when the truck is unloaded but they are very close to touching, whereas the Super Spring stops can be installed in one inch increments, so they are not engaged when the truck is unloaded. If you are loaded all the time, the Torklifts may be a better way to go though.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2022 | 04:26 PM
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I am loaded all the time. I think I'll give the upper stableloads a try. Thank you for the advice!
 
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 05:23 PM
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See post #90 in this thread below. I have also added Bilstein 5100 shocks since the stock Tremor shocks are more valved for off-road performance.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20052422
 
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 08:42 PM
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I also recommend the Torklift Upper Stableloads. I have used these on my last two F350 SD trucks hauling heavy truck campers and have been happy with their performance.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 06:48 PM
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I use a weight distributing hitch.

I don't like messing with suspension, it can make things ride rougher when not towing.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by arnegrant
I use a weight distributing hitch.

I don't like messing with suspension, it can make things ride rougher when not towing.
A weight distribution hitch won’t help a slide in camper. Also, there are options that can be used that won’t affect ride when unloaded.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 09:36 PM
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Ah shoot, thought it was a pull behind (got in the wrong forum section)

Air bags for that situation, or a heavier truck if you aren't tied to the one you've got.

Good luck!

 
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 1980CJ7
I find these to work pretty well on my F-350 They have held up well over thousands of miles. They engage the upper overload spring much sooner, and as a result they substantially reduce sag. https://www.superspringsinternational.com/superstops/
If you haven't already, while you're considering the above mentioned Super Stops, I would suggest you check out the Sumo Springs by SuperSprings. https://www.superspringsinternational.com/sumosprings/

Reach out to the Super Springs Tech Support Team to see what they suggest for your specific vehicle and your hauling needs. At their suggestion, I added a pair of the SumoSpring Rebel two-piece design in black along with a set of the SuperSway-Stop "SSS-3" to my 2019 Ford F350 CC LB SRW.

I have well over ten thousand miles on the SuperSprings combination hauling a Northern Lite 10-2 and I have been very happy with their set up so far. When the truck is unloaded the Rebel two-piece bumper is open and the SuperSway-Stops do not touch the end of the overload springs.



I like the fact that there is nothing to go flat on the SuperSpring combination when you are in the middle of B.F.E.

 
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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FredHubbard
… I'm trying to avoid airbags .. airbags often give that boinga-boinga effect. I've spoken with a number of truck camper folk who have moved away from airbags after installing.
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i agree. Im no fan of airbags either 👍
 
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