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That 3" body lift screwed up a nice 2wd in my book. First thing I noticed was that bumper, but then there are other pitfalls or fails that may be hidden.
What did you notice about the bumper, nothing major stood out to me just from the pics. I think the stance/lift on that looks really nice. The stock height looks too low and higher in the rear. I guess its one of the those preference things.
The bumber is 3" too low, they raised the body but not the bumper. what else needs fixed ? it just shows a sloppy job is all, maybe not a big deal but keep that in mind.
The rear is always high so that when it's loaded it sits level , has nothing to do with looks. but we often level them out for looks myself included. of course if you use them like a pickup you're going to be nose high which looks really stupid. it's all about what you're going to do with it.
The bumber is 3" too low, they raised the body but not the bumper. what else needs fixed ? it just shows a sloppy job is all, maybe not a big deal but keep that in mind.
The rear is always high so that when it's loaded it sits level , has nothing to do with looks. but we often level them out for looks myself included. of course if you use them like a pickup you're going to be nose high which looks really stupid. it's all about what you're going to do with it.
Yes I am aware of why they are made that way, I don't plan on carrying more than my dirt bike and maybe camping gear or a christmas tree, definitely not planning on using it as a working truck.
The bumber is 3" too low, they raised the body but not the bumper. what else needs fixed ? it just shows a sloppy job is all, maybe not a big deal but keep that in mind.
The rear is always high so that when it's loaded it sits level , has nothing to do with looks. but we often level them out for looks myself included. of course if you use them like a pickup you're going to be nose high which looks really stupid. it's all about what you're going to do with it.
Looking at other pics I now see how that bumper is sitting too low. Why would the bumper not have been lifted with the whole truck when they did the 3" lift?
The bumper is bolted to the frame needs relocation brackets to be raised to match the raised body im doubt full such brackets are now available.
but could be made faily easily if your Handy with a welder
I personaly like the 4wd f150 stance. It appears they will fit 33x12.5 tires with little persuasion with no lift.
The dana 44 front axle for street dutys will handle 35" tires just fine. 4.10 4.56 gears may be wanted but im unsure as ive never drove a c6 auto zruck.
The 9" rear in stock Form will handle about any tire to 400hp. with beefed up parts itl go 800-1000.
Id prefer it over a dana60 rear axle.
If building a trail rig on big tires 37" rcv axles 513 gears would be wanted and make it so you can abuse the front d44.
if not upgraded youl want to push the throttle like your trying to keep from breaking a egg.
A 2" body isnt my desired type of lift but does the job without messing up the f150 steeting and radius arm geometry.
I do not know what years the f150 4wd had coil Sprung front end. Id prefer it over anything with leaf springs.
Id only swing for a 2500 if it has a dana 60 hp front. And thats only 77.5-79 years and is why that axle is so desireable in the offroad World.
The f150 had a hp dana 44 for quite a few years years are unknown to me
What did you notice about the bumper, nothing major stood out to me just from the pics. I think the stance/lift on that looks really nice. The stock height looks too low and higher in the rear. I guess its one of the those preference things.
Just above the bumper, two big square looking holes where the grille shell originally dropped over the frame rails ... spoils the original lines / relationship of bumper to body. The front frame rails are rounded, the bumper fits over them. The bumper can be raised with brackets fabricated but without a lot of thought, it'll end up stuck out further in front and then there's a big gap between bumper and grill shell lower apron, "not pretty" ... plus then the whole lower front fender is also exposed. Think of your right fist as a front frame end, now wrap your left hand around the right fist. Now without opening the left grasp, raise it 3" up.
Here's a comparison to illusterate stance compared to a stock unlifted F150 4wd. Close to same.
Look at the front bumper in both pics to the fender lines too.
Not trying to sell anything. The F-250 looks OK but if one is going to do a body lift, I think the body AND bumpers should be raised together. I have never delved into any potentential issues like wires too short, splices maybe needed, steering shaft or clutch linkage alignments, shifter through floor, etc that may or may not arrise from 3" higher body mount blocks. Body lifts just never appealed to me, but many do use them.
That truck also has pipes splayed out to exit in front of rear wheels. I've bought three like that over the years, all went to an exhaust shop the very first time they left the drive way. Then, it was $150 or less for real dual exhaust with real mufflers to the rear, now it's a tad higher. Last time a budy who does muffler work made me new rear tail pipes was over $200 and was just for pipes, time, bending, brackets etc, & some welding.
Just above the bumper, two big square looking holes where the grille shell originally dropped over the frame rails ... spoils the original lines / relationship of bumper to body. The front frame rails are rounded, the bumper fits over them. The bumper can be raised with brackets fabricated but without a lot of thought, it'll end up stuck out further in front and then there's a big gap between bumper and grill shell lower apron, "not pretty" ... plus then the whole lower front fender is also exposed. Think of your right fist as a front frame end, now wrap your left hand around the right fist. Now without opening the left grasp, raise it 3" up.
Here's a comparison to illusterate stance compared to a stock unlifted F150 4wd. Close to same.
Look at the front bumper in both pics to the fender lines too.
Not trying to sell anything. The F-250 looks OK but if one is going to do a body lift, I think the body AND bumpers should be raised together. I have never delved into any potentential issues like wires too short, splices maybe needed, steering shaft or clutch linkage alignments, shifter through floor, etc that may or may not arrise from 3" higher body mount blocks. Body lifts just never appealed to me, but many do use them.
That truck also has pipes splayed out to exit in front of rear wheels. I've bought three like that over the years, all went to an exhaust shop the very first time they left the drive way. Then, it was $150 or less for real dual exhaust with real mufflers to the rear, now it's a tad higher. Last time a budy who does muffler work made me new rear tail pipes was over $200 and was just for pipes, time, bending, brackets etc, & some welding.
Thanks for the quality post and explanation! It only magnifies my ignorance in this matter, I have a lot of research to do.
Looking at other pics I now see how that bumper is sitting too low. Why would the bumper not have been lifted with the whole truck when they did the 3" lift?
If I remember correctly, way back in the early 90s when i lived in CA they used to have a maximum bumper height law. You'd see these massively jacked up trucks with the bumpers hanging low to make sure they remained "legal". Looked really strange. Maybe the PO did it for that reason? Something you might want to check into though.
If I remember correctly, way back in the early 90s when i lived in CA they used to have a maximum bumper height law. You'd see these massively jacked up trucks with the bumpers hanging low to make sure they remained "legal". Looked really strange. Maybe the PO did it for that reason? Something you might want to check into though.
I believe headlight height is enforceable, but typically isn’t. Just an add on for being an ******.
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I have a 390, wanted a 428 but its not in the budget so I compromised and went with a 410.
don't try scaring me away, I'm under the impression that these old Ford parts are easily accessible and cheap, seriously though are they ultra expensive? I guess it's why I want a more complete running truck.
I think all states have a bumper height law but it's only enforced on heavy trucks. around here there are punks with jacked up rigs they need a rope ladder to get in and the cops don't do anything about it. their bumper wouldn't even touch the roof line of most cars.
If you want something that looks like a 4wd I'd buy a 4wd. it's just a better investment.
don't try scaring me away, I'm under the impression that these old Ford parts are easily accessible and cheap, seriously though are they ultra expensive? I guess it's why I want a more complete running truck.
Buy the cleanest one you can afford.
If parts for them are cheap I'd like to know where everyone is buying them from.
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