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Old Oct 19, 2022 | 02:49 PM
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Your 01 was at the tail end of the compatibility for the NGS and you need the right cards for your year truck
Mine I can do 05 Blackwoods but that's it (as far as it goes)
 
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Old Oct 19, 2022 | 02:59 PM
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...Pretty common for a blinking OD lamp (on a Ford like yours) is code P1780 because your shift lever wiring is broken like this
Did you forget that your theory about that has already been shot down in flames earlier in this thread? A P1780 will only be set during the test procedure if either the operator fails to actuate the switch or the switch's circuit is faulty. It won't be set during actual driving.

The suggestion to buy an old NGS when an simple and relatively inexpensive alternative exists seems to be.... different.




 
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Old Oct 19, 2022 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
Your 01 was at the tail end of the compatibility for the NGS and you need the right cards for your year truck
Mine I can do 05 Blackwoods but that's it (as far as it goes)
Thanks for the info. I don't want to hijack this thread, my truck is a 1996. Cheers!
 
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Old Oct 20, 2022 | 08:58 AM
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WTF?
So what's your theory then Big Dog Sho 89?
You are full of answers
I'd have had the truck fixed yesterday with my NGS and a few test parts (just exactly like what the Ford manual says)
 
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Old Oct 20, 2022 | 09:00 AM
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I am a Ford chassis master
How bout you sho?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2022 | 09:08 AM
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My theory is that, if the OP or the recent hijacker fails to follow troubleshooting instructions given over three months ago, he's just going to go around in circles.

Since neither the OP or the recent hijacker have done so yet, any speculation as to cause and needed repair is not useful at this time.


 
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Old Oct 20, 2022 | 09:31 AM
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My experience (on a sample of ONE) is also that broken wires don't cause the OD light to flash. On our '03 they prevented the light from illuminating, ever. Granted I don't recall which wire(s) were broken.

I value manic's insight but when it comes to electrical SHO is the big dog, actually. And when it comes to transmissions in general Mark K has forgotten more than I'll ever know

That said, I guess it isn't that difficult to pull the column surround and look for broken wires, but I think it's a waste of time here
 
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Old Oct 20, 2022 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
My theory is that, if the OP or the recent hijacker fails to follow troubleshooting instructions given over three months ago, he's just going to go around in circles.

Since neither the OP or the recent hijacker have done so yet, any speculation as to cause and needed repair is not useful at this time.
Thanks manicmechanic and sho for input. The reason I popped on here is that I'm looking for a diagnostic tool but... the quick/easy and often proven problem with the intermittent overdrive off lamp/shifting issue seems to be the short wire in the column, I'm doing that while I look for the tool. I started a thread about this but I will ask it here, my shifter stem has two of the three pins that go to ground when I test them (stem pulled, disassembled), do you guys know if that is correct? I realize a broken wire would most likely have no continuity much less to ground but............
 
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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 05:29 PM
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@ CARGO " looking for a diagnostic tool " Innova makes some good entry level scanners. Think about the future. Pay as much as you can now so your not looking again in 2 years. Another great tool is a power probe. I bought the 5610pro scanner for my son and the PP3CSRED power probe that is all a non-pro needs to get started.

https://shop.powerprobe.com/na/en/pr...90d77eab3fbb4f

https://www.innova.com/collections/o...agnostic-tools
 
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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 05:54 PM
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... the quick/easy and often proven problem with the intermittent overdrive off lamp/shifting issue seems to be the short wire in the column, I'm doing that while I look for the tool.
Uh, no. Re-read the WHOLE thread...

I started a thread about this but I will ask it here, my shifter stem has two of the three pins that go to ground when I test them (stem pulled, disassembled), do you guys know if that is correct?
That does not sound very likely. Review your testing procedure. That result, if correct would require TWO wires to have both chafed and shorted to ground or to each other while one is shorted to ground. Certainly not impossible, but is not very likely unless the harness is a chewed up and mangled mess inside the **** lever tube. You'll have to do a visual.


 
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Old Oct 27, 2022 | 10:56 AM
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Uh, no. Re-read the WHOLE thread...

That does not sound very likely. Review your testing procedure. That result, if correct would require TWO wires to have both chafed and shorted to ground or to each other while one is shorted to ground. Certainly not impossible, but is not very likely unless the harness is a chewed up and mangled mess inside the **** lever tube. You'll have to do a visual.

Thanks for the help. I took the stem out of the system (unplugged it) and same problem occurred, overdrive disconnects randomly. It will do the same thing idling setting in the driveway, at least the overdrive light goes on and off. I did purchase a BT dongle and ran the FORscan demo version yesterday, no codes. I am getting under the truck in the next couple of days to unplug the trans wires to clean/look for issues.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2022 | 08:44 PM
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The OD cancel wiring doesn't go to the transmission, it goes to the PCM.

1. Get the free extended license to unlock everything.
2. Use forscan to monitor the OD Cancel button's PID and see if the PCM is seeing it change state. Might be a wiring issue between the column and the PCM or the PCm itself if so.

 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 03:35 PM
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Question Working on it

Originally Posted by projectSHO89
The OD cancel wiring doesn't go to the transmission, it goes to the PCM.

1. Get the free extended license to unlock everything.
2. Use forscan to monitor the OD Cancel button's PID and see if the PCM is seeing it change state. Might be a wiring issue between the column and the PCM or the PCm itself if so.
Well that's fun. I rounded up my old Windows 10 computer and loaded FORscan on it. Bought the recommended BT dongle and after a few times was able to get the extended license loaded. I just ran it and P1111, no codes comes up. I did load the TCS PID and it shows on and off when pressed. Again, thanks for your input/help its been fun playing with this stuff. Really want to get the truck right though.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 07:05 PM
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Something doesn't compute...

1. What are you working on? Only thing I've seen is that you have an "F350" (wrong forum, if so....)
2. Never seen or heard of a P1111 DTC on a 97+ F150 (this forum).
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
Something doesn't compute...

1. What are you working on? Only thing I've seen is that you have an "F350" (wrong forum, if so....)
2. Never seen or heard of a P1111 DTC on a 97+ F150 (this forum).
You are right and I already stated I did not want to hijack this thread. I have a 96 F-350/7.3, I did post this on the right forum but never really got a reply. My initial post here was simply about the lack of IOS/Mac support of FORscan (apparently because Apple has zero customer support) asking if anyone recommend another program. Anyway that is the code that came up. Per your recommendation I did run the check to see if the switch was showing up.
 

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