Need help finding a cleveland
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Need help finding a cleveland
Hello I am a 17 year old kid that is building a 57 f100 with a Cleveland. I just tore the motor down and found out it is cracked. I am looking to buy a block of a complete motor. I am in northern ca. thank you
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Ebay or the wrecking yards
Rare enough there is only 2 on ebay right now
1 is a auction, the other is a reman 2 bbl most likely a 2 bolt block
Call a wrecking yard with a nationwide locator
You will need Small b big money
I bought a spare Boss 302 motor last year for 8000.00
Rare enough there is only 2 on ebay right now
1 is a auction, the other is a reman 2 bbl most likely a 2 bolt block
Call a wrecking yard with a nationwide locator
You will need Small b big money
I bought a spare Boss 302 motor last year for 8000.00
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351C
I have had a Cleveland or two around for 30 years. They are fantastic engines and will give you more horsepower per cubic inch than any pushrod engine Ford ever produced. You need to do a lot of research before you jump into building one. There is a lot of stuff about these engines on the internet especially YouTube that is total BS. One thing for sure if you buy a core engine make sure it hasn't been over bored already. Because .030 to .040 over is all they will take, unless it is sonic checked for core shift.
Don't worry about 2 bolt or 4 bolt mains, unless you are going to Daytona it doesn't matter.
Let us know what heads you are going to use and what your expectations are for HP etc. My personal favorite head is the 73, D3ZE, 4V, open chamber, small valve head. The only problem with them is getting the compression up without spending a fortune on pistons.
Keep in mind that this forum is visible to anyone with a phone or computer. Don't wait a week to follow up on a parts link, someone else may get there first.
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I have had a Cleveland or two around for 30 years. They are fantastic engines and will give you more horsepower per cubic inch than any pushrod engine Ford ever produced. You need to do a lot of research before you jump into building one. There is a lot of stuff about these engines on the internet especially YouTube that is total BS. One thing for sure if you buy a core engine make sure it hasn't been over bored already. Because .030 to .040 over is all they will take, unless it is sonic checked for core shift.
Don't worry about 2 bolt or 4 bolt mains, unless you are going to Daytona it doesn't matter.
Let us know what heads you are going to use and what your expectations are for HP etc. My personal favorite head is the 73, D3ZE, 4V, open chamber, small valve head. The only problem with them is getting the compression up without spending a fortune on pistons.
Keep in mind that this forum is visible to anyone with a phone or computer. Don't wait a week to follow up on a parts link, someone else may get there first.
I have had a Cleveland or two around for 30 years. They are fantastic engines and will give you more horsepower per cubic inch than any pushrod engine Ford ever produced. You need to do a lot of research before you jump into building one. There is a lot of stuff about these engines on the internet especially YouTube that is total BS. One thing for sure if you buy a core engine make sure it hasn't been over bored already. Because .030 to .040 over is all they will take, unless it is sonic checked for core shift.
Don't worry about 2 bolt or 4 bolt mains, unless you are going to Daytona it doesn't matter.
Let us know what heads you are going to use and what your expectations are for HP etc. My personal favorite head is the 73, D3ZE, 4V, open chamber, small valve head. The only problem with them is getting the compression up without spending a fortune on pistons.
Keep in mind that this forum is visible to anyone with a phone or computer. Don't wait a week to follow up on a parts link, someone else may get there first.
i have a set of 70 4v closed chamber I am planning on using and idk haven’t decided on what bp I want but I want around 8/1 compression so nothing too high of compression for the street. What are some of the dos and don’t do should know
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Read thru this it is very well written and informative. Sticky #3: 351C Basics and Performance Tuning | The De Tomaso Forums (infopop.cc)
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351 C engines were in production for 4 years, 1970 to 1973 so they made plenty of them but 1973 was a long time ago. Still I don't think that finding a usable block will be too difficult.
2 bolt or 4 bolt makes no difference and it seems like that is a mostly random feature even though supposedly all 4V engines had 4 bolt and 2v had 2 bolt. I've built quite a few Cleveland engines for Panteras and those all came with 4V engines. Some of the blocks have been 4 bolt but most have been 2 bolt.
2 bolt or 4 bolt makes no difference and it seems like that is a mostly random feature even though supposedly all 4V engines had 4 bolt and 2v had 2 bolt. I've built quite a few Cleveland engines for Panteras and those all came with 4V engines. Some of the blocks have been 4 bolt but most have been 2 bolt.
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351C or 351M-400
There are a lot of reasons Ford decided to build a 351M but the best explanation I have read is that after they stopped production of the 351C at the end of 1973 the demand for 351 cu. in. engines was greater than the Windsor plant could produce. The simplest and quickest fix was to de-stroke the 400 since it only required a few new parts and practically no new tooling.
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