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Old Jul 12, 2022 | 12:54 PM
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You won't find me contributing anything different from what others have said. I can validate that the 4600 and 5100 series are identical except for length and appearance. I have 5100s but always loved the cool Aussie colors from my old Toyota 4x4 days.

The 5100s have served me just fine. Absolute improvement over stock/FX4 shocks. I've got close to 80-90K miles on them and no end in sight. I have a Fox 2.0 stabilizer and when it's time for shocks, I'll do matching Fox 2.0 all around. Reason being is that I've never had Fox shocks before and want to see what the fuss is about. My truck sees quite a bit of off road time in the desert.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2022 | 05:34 PM
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Living on a dirt road, I noticed a difference right away, Then, I towed my fifth wheel and there was a very noticeable difference. Really calms down the bouncing when going over expansion joints and overpasses.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2022 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by deveroutdoors
You won't find me contributing anything different from what others have said. I can validate that the 4600 and 5100 series are identical except for length and appearance. I have 5100s but always loved the cool Aussie colors from my old Toyota 4x4 days.

The 5100s have served me just fine. Absolute improvement over stock/FX4 shocks. I've got close to 80-90K miles on them and no end in sight. I have a Fox 2.0 stabilizer and when it's time for shocks, I'll do matching Fox 2.0 all around. Reason being is that I've never had Fox shocks before and want to see what the fuss is about. My truck sees quite a bit of off road time in the desert.
for the money NOTHING beats the fox 2.0 lineup. including their 2.0 coilovers for other applications. IMHO.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 04:37 AM
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for the money NOTHING beats the fox 2.0 lineup. including their 2.0 coilovers for other applications. IMHO.
I'd agree with you... IF they lasted longer. Problem is they don't, they need to be rebuilt 30k miles later, and cost as much to replace as rebuild.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 09:17 AM
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I've had 5100's shocks and steering stabilizers on all three of my last SD's, '17 F350, '20 F450, and '22 F250, and I really like them. The ride is improved, as is the handling. Every single stock shock (all FX4) I've taken off has had little to no rebound. I could compress them by hand, and they either stay compressed, or very, very slowly expand.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 12:24 PM
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The truck looks so clean! DId you wash it right there?

Great photo.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2022 | 09:53 PM
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I replaced the stock FX4 shocks w/ Bilstein 4600s at ~35K and the Bilsteins *are* better, but not night & day.

The standouts in objective performance improvement:
  • Slightly less body roll in corners
    • The was a total surprise
  • Eliminated rear axle "sliding / stepping out" over mid-corner bumps
    • Also a pleasant surprise
  • Reduced (but not eliminated) harshness over crappy freeway surfaces
    • Think 65 mph state highways with right lanes chewed up by overweight 18-wheelers
    • These were intolerable to drive on w/ the FX4s
    • They're still noisy but now the ride is improved and can be tolerated
  • Reduced (but not eliminated) "occupant body fat shake" over freeway undulations
    • This was a real problem in Southern California so it was nice to be reminded less annoyingly of the fat I'm personally carrying
  • Significantly reduced (but not eliminated) harshness backing into driveway
    • Also a surprise but very welcome as this happens reliably once a day
    • The driveway to street interface has an "S" shaped cross section and always sucked previously
Given their lifetime warranty, no need for routine maintenance, easy installation, performance improvement, and low cost to entry (parts & labor), I think they were a good upgrade and would make the decision again.

Full disclosure, I wanted more performance and will replace the Bilstein 4600s w/ a set of Accutuned Fox 2.0" remote reservoir adjustable shocks, which literally cost more than 4x just for the parts. Rebuilding costs every ~50K miles not included.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
I'd agree with you... IF they lasted longer. Problem is they don't, they need to be rebuilt 30k miles later, and cost as much to replace as rebuild.
says who? on street driven/work trucks they'll last 100k. 30k rebuild interval is if its abused offroad regularly, i bet its hard to blow them out on a f250, truck rides too stiff to go fast enough.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by honda250xtitan
says who? on street driven/work trucks they'll last 100k. 30k rebuild interval is if its abused offroad regularly, i bet its hard to blow them out on a f250, truck rides too stiff to go fast enough.
Pretty much any person I've ever known who bought them. If you want to pay for a rebuild be my guest. I've never seen a set with 50k+ that didn't need a rebuild.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 11:06 AM
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 08:34 PM
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My question is- is Bilstein the only aftermarket player with perceived quality? (other than Fox)
My F250 is pretty new at 3500 miles and it seems fine* but someday I may move up/on to something other than stock or generic shocks.
What's out there?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sandroost
My question is- is Bilstein the only aftermarket player with perceived quality? (other than Fox)
My F250 is pretty new at 3500 miles and it seems fine* but someday I may move up/on to something other than stock or generic shocks.
What's out there?
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sandroost
My question is- is Bilstein the only aftermarket player with perceived quality? (other than Fox)
My F250 is pretty new at 3500 miles and it seems fine* but someday I may move up/on to something other than stock or generic shocks.
What's out there?
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Rancho is another one.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 09:27 AM
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Rancho 7500 and I think Monroe makes a good monotube
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AZFordLover
I replaced the stock FX4 shocks w/ Bilstein 4600s at ~35K and the Bilsteins *are* better, but not night & day.

The standouts in objective performance improvement:
  • Slightly less body roll in corners
    • The was a total surprise
  • Eliminated rear axle "sliding / stepping out" over mid-corner bumps
    • Also a pleasant surprise
  • Reduced (but not eliminated) harshness over crappy freeway surfaces
    • Think 65 mph state highways with right lanes chewed up by overweight 18-wheelers
    • These were intolerable to drive on w/ the FX4s
    • They're still noisy but now the ride is improved and can be tolerated
  • Reduced (but not eliminated) "occupant body fat shake" over freeway undulations
    • This was a real problem in Southern California so it was nice to be reminded less annoyingly of the fat I'm personally carrying
  • Significantly reduced (but not eliminated) harshness backing into driveway
    • Also a surprise but very welcome as this happens reliably once a day
    • The driveway to street interface has an "S" shaped cross section and always sucked previously
Given their lifetime warranty, no need for routine maintenance, easy installation, performance improvement, and low cost to entry (parts & labor), I think they were a good upgrade and would make the decision again.

Full disclosure, I wanted more performance and will replace the Bilstein 4600s w/ a set of Accutuned Fox 2.0" remote reservoir adjustable shocks, which literally cost more than 4x just for the parts. Rebuilding costs every ~50K miles not included.
I ordered my set of Bilstein 4600 shocks a while ago and they sat on a shelf until I physically recovered enough to install them. I concur with the above assessment. There is a stretch of concrete freeway where each pour section seems to have dipped on one end give ya that thump thump thump at 65 mph. The Bilstein's definitely smoothed out the feel and associated "porpoising". What really surprised me was the almost total lack of any sort of rebound on the front OEM FX4 shocks. The rear set, I collapsed and used the strap from Bilstein shocks to hold the OEM shocks collapsed for storage in the Bilstein boxes. The front shocks were completely different. I needed to manually pull the shock out to get the strap to hold it. I do not know if this is normal for the front OEM shocks , but I sure felt that it was odd. By contrast, I needed to use a bottle jack to collapse the front Bilstein shocks to align the bottom bolt hole. My back just could not put up with the twisting contortion of my manually pushing up on the shock. Had 35k on the OEM shocks and no apparent oil leaking.
 
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