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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 09:45 AM
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I tow with my 5.8/E4OD. I swapped from 3.55 to 4.10. I am happy with the results. I would love to have a transmission with many more gears. Looking into a 10sp swap, but they have to make the controller first.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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6R80 adapters out, swear I have seen a controller and the trans is quite strong stock.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 09:57 AM
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Yup, adapters but Quick10 controller is not out yet. Suppose to be next month.

Then there is the question, do I want to be the first one to use it? Something tells me that I would rather have someone else to be the guinea pig.

 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 10:02 AM
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They say, came out in Nov, SEMA Show-->US Shift Stand-Alone Transmission Controllers
 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 10:06 AM
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Coming out of the closet is one thing, available for sale is another. The fine print says early 2025.

Without a doubt, I will be sitting down when I look at the price. I have priced out transmissions, they are substantially more than the 6 speeds.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by torq'ta 5 8
8th, 9th, 10th, all your doing is moving where the RPM's are, in the new 10 speed auto's, it really hurts our trucks only having, 4 speeds, its a big hit in RPM's, is the difference in 4.10, 4.56, or 3.73, 3.55, 3.08.
Most of these older engines lack the power to even make a 10spd usable. The reason a 7.3 Godzilla with 3.55s wont tow in 9th or 10th is because it is at too low of an RPM where it isnt making enough power to sustain that gear at a given speed. Now take a 351w even making 350HP and it will not be able to take advantage of 9th and 10th unless you are going 80mph due to where it makes enough power.

There is a 6% grade for 4 miles near my in-laws and my OBS 460/5spd with 4.10s can climb it at 45mph (speed limit) in 4th gear (1:1) but not 5th (.76:1) my 2022 7.3/10spd/4.30s will climb it at a lower RPM in 10th (.63:1) because it makes significantly more power to take advantage of the additional overdrive gears.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 12:08 PM
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I agree, if you seldom actually drive it a bunch and never tow except maybe the occasional boat, leave it be. It would be happier and a little more fun with 4:10's. Either way, I'd install a big auxiliary transmission cooler just for longevity in whatever you do with it. Transmission>auxiliary cooler>factory cooler>transmission.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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I'm building a 408 and this should complement my Kenne-Bell supercharger. I really do not think I will run into power issues. Of course, I'm still waiting for the machine shop to get to it. He says the first of the year. Maybe a late Christmas present..
 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 06:41 PM
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As bad as I dislike the cheby, they will get a stand alone before Ford, does and prolly 1/2 price, for same 10speed trans...
 
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Old Dec 25, 2024 | 12:05 PM
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Just for the sake of future research.... F150's generally came with 3:55's standard. I have one that came with a 5.0 and 3:30 gears and its the dumbest thing ever. That being said, If you have 3:55 gears and 33 inch tires you actually have more like 3:27 gears(or whatever the math works out to be.). 4:10 gears will bring you back to stock(essentially) 3:55 drivability. You will have to go with 4.56 gears if you want more than stock performance with 33 inch tires.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2024 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by EgoMan
Just for the sake of future research.... F150's generally came with 3:55's standard. I have one that came with a 5.0 and 3:30 gears and its the dumbest thing ever. That being said, If you have 3:55 gears and 33 inch tires you actually have more like 3:27 gears(or whatever the math works out to be.). 4:10 gears will bring you back to stock(essentially) 3:55 drivability. You will have to go with 4.56 gears if you want more than stock performance with 33 inch tires.
They use smaller numerical gears in half-tons because of CAFE standards. Higher GVWR trucks are exempt from EPA standards so they can come with 4.10s, 4.30s or 4.88 in F450+ trucks.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2024 | 12:27 PM
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Almost all of these had a 235/75R15 stock. That is a 29" tire. You forgot beyond height difference, you are increasing mass being larger and drag with a wider tire (basic physics). That is why if you have a stock or basically stock 302 or 351W and an auto, go to a 4.56:1. Manuals had a far shorter OD around 0.77:1

302s are undergeared stock. Best thing I did was dump that weenie 3.55:1 and did a 4.10:1 with my short tires. I cannot imagine how much of a slug a 3.55:1 302/auto would be on 33s.
 
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At the risk of being banned, doxxed, and maybe assassinated, may I suggest OP try driving a bit slower?

 
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For a 5.8/E4OD F-150, the only factory gear ratios were 3.08 or 3.55s in either 4x2 or 4x4..

For a 5.8/E4OD F250 4x4, my buddy's truck with that combo came with 4.10s and 235/85-16s tires as stock (31.8"tall), but then again, it isn't a daily driver!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2025 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 49andFord
At the risk of being banned, doxxed, and maybe assassinated, may I suggest OP try driving a bit slower?
Since you said almost exactly the same thing in another gear ratio thread my answer is the same.

 
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