GVWR Question
More Turbo
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So when you say "carrying 11,540lbs" you are referring to the total payload my truck can handle with, "Curb Weight with fuel," "Pin Weight", "People" and "Cargo"...correct ?
Also what numbers from my white sticker did you use to come up with 11,540 ?
My wife will be happy we have not closed on the 2022 Jayco 310RLTS at the dealership yet and she loves it...
and thank you so much for taking the time and adding to this thread...
Mark Berggren
Also what numbers from my white sticker did you use to come up with 11,540 ?
My wife will be happy we have not closed on the 2022 Jayco 310RLTS at the dealership yet and she loves it...
and thank you so much for taking the time and adding to this thread...
Mark Berggren
Have you made a deal on either or both of the truck and trailer?
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From: Frederick, MD
Just to clarify. Hard numbers are on the white sticker. GVW, Front and rear axle ratings.
Sidewall of the tires at max PSI is a hard rating.
Your registration would be a hard rating in some circumstances. BTW you up the registration to equal or exceed the info on the white sticker.
Sidewall of the tires at max PSI is a hard rating.
Your registration would be a hard rating in some circumstances. BTW you up the registration to equal or exceed the info on the white sticker.
Hotshot
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From: Wyoming
The HCTT package can increase the trailer capacity but it doesn't help your payload capacity. You're still limited to 2239 lbs for your payload. A 14,500 lbs GVWR fifth wheel trailer will have a pin weight of at least 2900 lbs., putting you ~700 lbs over your payload without anything in the truck (passengers, luggage, etc).
From the payload perspective, an F-250 with the 6.7L engine is great for towing a bumper pull trailer. It's not so good for a fifth wheel.
From the payload perspective, an F-250 with the 6.7L engine is great for towing a bumper pull trailer. It's not so good for a fifth wheel.
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The 10,000 lbs GVWR package on your window sticker is a Down Grade that is mostly intended just for registration in states that charge by your trucks weight rating.
Your white stickers totals up to more than the 10,000 lbs. But somebody when they placed the order to buy this truck back in 2017 opted to DOWNGRADE the GVWR to a 10,000 lbs max. Did Ford change any parts? No I doubt it. It's strictly a downgrade on paper to save money when you register your truck in states that have varying fees depending on the weight rating of the truck. Here in Utah, The annual taxes are based on the trucks value, not it's weight rating. There is virtually no difference in the $ of a renewal for a F250 vs a F350.
But it probably does affect your chances of getting a ticket for being overweight if you exceed it, and chances of getting sued if you are over weight and in an accident
Your white stickers totals up to more than the 10,000 lbs. But somebody when they placed the order to buy this truck back in 2017 opted to DOWNGRADE the GVWR to a 10,000 lbs max. Did Ford change any parts? No I doubt it. It's strictly a downgrade on paper to save money when you register your truck in states that have varying fees depending on the weight rating of the truck. Here in Utah, The annual taxes are based on the trucks value, not it's weight rating. There is virtually no difference in the $ of a renewal for a F250 vs a F350.
But it probably does affect your chances of getting a ticket for being overweight if you exceed it, and chances of getting sued if you are over weight and in an accident
Cross-Country
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This was taken last week with a gooseneck trailer weighing just under 17K. A tad over the max GAWR's but definitely still safe. This is with an 1100lb flatty and airbags though too. 2015 F250 CCLB 6.7 with 3.55's. Hope this can serve as a sort of gauge for ya.
And whoever mentioned the 10K door jamb sticker being for states with weight based registration hit the nail on the head. I read a few years back that Ford did that to keep costs down in states like CA where the difference between registering a F250 will cost about $400/yr less than a F350 or $1000/yr less than an F450. 10K is the magic number before commercial requirements need to be met.
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From: Livermore Ca.
The HCTT package can increase the trailer capacity but it doesn't help your payload capacity. You're still limited to 2239 lbs for your payload. A 14,500 lbs GVWR fifth wheel trailer will have a pin weight of at least 2900 lbs., putting you ~700 lbs over your payload without anything in the truck (passengers, luggage, etc).
From the payload perspective, an F-250 with the 6.7L engine is great for towing a bumper pull trailer. It's not so good for a fifth wheel.
From the payload perspective, an F-250 with the 6.7L engine is great for towing a bumper pull trailer. It's not so good for a fifth wheel.
Please don't tell us that you are one of thosw yellow sticker guys? The true. load capacity is dictated by the white sticker with the axle ratings and the load capacity of the tires. I went to a CHP weigh station and talked to the CHP and thats what he told me.
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From: Livermore Ca.
The 10,000 lbs GVWR package on your window sticker is a Down Grade that is mostly intended just for registration in states that charge by your trucks weight rating.
Your white stickers totals up to more than the 10,000 lbs. But somebody when they placed the order to buy this truck back in 2017 opted to DOWNGRADE the GVWR to a 10,000 lbs max. Did Ford change any parts? No I doubt it. It's strictly a downgrade on paper to save money when you register your truck in states that have varying fees depending on the weight rating of the truck. Here in Utah, The annual taxes are based on the trucks value, not it's weight rating. There is virtually no difference in the $ of a renewal for a F250 vs a F350.
But it probably does affect your chances of getting a ticket for being overweight if you exceed it, and chances of getting sued if you are over weight and in an accident
Your white stickers totals up to more than the 10,000 lbs. But somebody when they placed the order to buy this truck back in 2017 opted to DOWNGRADE the GVWR to a 10,000 lbs max. Did Ford change any parts? No I doubt it. It's strictly a downgrade on paper to save money when you register your truck in states that have varying fees depending on the weight rating of the truck. Here in Utah, The annual taxes are based on the trucks value, not it's weight rating. There is virtually no difference in the $ of a renewal for a F250 vs a F350.
But it probably does affect your chances of getting a ticket for being overweight if you exceed it, and chances of getting sued if you are over weight and in an accident
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From: Wyoming
See the bold part of my post that I highlighted.
Cross-Country
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Fritz and Bone,
He is referring to the fact that a bumper pull exerts less force on a drive axle than a 5th wheel, therefore your RAWR is easier to keep under its rating.
Say youve got an 18K latch and pintle and an 18K 5th wheel, that latch and pintle will put a fraction of its weight on your drive axle as that 5th wheel will.
He is referring to the fact that a bumper pull exerts less force on a drive axle than a 5th wheel, therefore your RAWR is easier to keep under its rating.
Say youve got an 18K latch and pintle and an 18K 5th wheel, that latch and pintle will put a fraction of its weight on your drive axle as that 5th wheel will.
Cross-Country
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Fritz and Bone,
He is referring to the fact that a bumper pull exerts less force on a drive axle than a 5th wheel, therefore your RAWR is easier to keep under its rating.
Say youve got an 18K latch and pintle and an 18K 5th wheel, that latch and pintle will put a fraction of its weight on your drive axle as that 5th wheel will.
He is referring to the fact that a bumper pull exerts less force on a drive axle than a 5th wheel, therefore your RAWR is easier to keep under its rating.
Say youve got an 18K latch and pintle and an 18K 5th wheel, that latch and pintle will put a fraction of its weight on your drive axle as that 5th wheel will.
More Turbo
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The 10,000 lbs GVWR package on your window sticker is a Down Grade that is mostly intended just for registration in states that charge by your trucks weight rating.
Your white stickers totals up to more than the 10,000 lbs. But somebody when they placed the order to buy this truck back in 2017 opted to DOWNGRADE the GVWR to a 10,000 lbs max. Did Ford change any parts? No I doubt it. It's strictly a downgrade on paper to save money when you register your truck in states that have varying fees depending on the weight rating of the truck. Here in Utah, The annual taxes are based on the trucks value, not it's weight rating. There is virtually no difference in the $ of a renewal for a F250 vs a F350.
But it probably does affect your chances of getting a ticket for being overweight if you exceed it, and chances of getting sued if you are over weight and in an accident
Your white stickers totals up to more than the 10,000 lbs. But somebody when they placed the order to buy this truck back in 2017 opted to DOWNGRADE the GVWR to a 10,000 lbs max. Did Ford change any parts? No I doubt it. It's strictly a downgrade on paper to save money when you register your truck in states that have varying fees depending on the weight rating of the truck. Here in Utah, The annual taxes are based on the trucks value, not it's weight rating. There is virtually no difference in the $ of a renewal for a F250 vs a F350.
But it probably does affect your chances of getting a ticket for being overweight if you exceed it, and chances of getting sued if you are over weight and in an accident
Hotshot
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Fritz and Bone,
He is referring to the fact that a bumper pull exerts less force on a drive axle than a 5th wheel, therefore your RAWR is easier to keep under its rating.
Say youve got an 18K latch and pintle and an 18K gooseneck, that latch and pintle will put a fraction of its weight on your drive axle as that 5th wheel will.
He is referring to the fact that a bumper pull exerts less force on a drive axle than a 5th wheel, therefore your RAWR is easier to keep under its rating.
Say youve got an 18K latch and pintle and an 18K gooseneck, that latch and pintle will put a fraction of its weight on your drive axle as that 5th wheel will.
that’s good to know . I have a 2019 f-450 with complete gooseneck kit …..but…I decided a few years ago I was going to rely on the 3” frame hitch instead of the bed gooseneck hitch.
i needed the bed for drawers and other storage so I thru anew frameless topper over the bed.
with the 3” hitch rated at 20k, it made the decision easy.