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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 12:12 PM
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Powerstroke or IDI?

Hello everyone, I'm looking to get a truck that's also gonna be my first vehicle and I've decided an older diesel would suit my needs well. My question is, should i buy a 7.3 IDI or just go ahead and buy a 7.3 Power-stroke instead? The IDI has enough power/efficiency for what i need it to do but the Power-stroke would easily have enough power/efficiency and then some left over. But I'm on the fence about whether i should go with the IDI or Power-stroke because I'm worried that repairing the Power-stroke is going to be more challenging and maybe even more expensive because there are more electronics on it. (I plan on doing/learning to do most of the wrenching myself. I have a very firm understanding of spark ignition engines and how they work and how to repair them already.)
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 12:25 PM
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Any reason you have dismissed a 460 of this era?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Any reason you have dismissed a 460 of this era?
The 460 is a good engine but the fuel mileage is horrible. 10 mpg max from what i hear.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 12:58 PM
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The 460 is a good engine but the fuel mileage is horrible. 10 mpg max from what i hear.
Pulling 10k I don't get better - 10 is the best I've gotten, unloaded is a different story though
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 01:11 PM
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I'd personally rather have an IDI than a Powerstroke.

The deal I found on a truck to build was on a Powerstroke truck though, so here I am lol.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fordeverything
The 460 is a good engine but the fuel mileage is horrible. 10 mpg max from what i hear.


But paying $1/gal more for fuel makes economic sense? $1500 for a set of injectors? $100 oil changes. Better bust out the abacus and see what is less expensive to drive.

My dually does 9-10mpg city and 15s freeway unloaded. ECLB/S5-47 trans/4.10:1. I would rather a 460 due to cost of parts, fuel, etc. Then IDI. Then PSD.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by d2freak82
Pulling 10k I don't get better - 10 is the best I've gotten, unloaded is a different story though
What does it get unloaded?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 01:48 PM
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But paying $1/gal more for fuel makes economic sense? $1500 for a set of injectors? $100 oil changes. Better bust out the abacus and see what is less expensive to drive.

My dually does 9-10mpg city and 15s freeway unloaded. ECLB/S5-47 trans/4.10:1. I would rather a 460 due to cost of parts, fuel, etc. Then IDI. Then PSD.
I live in CA so the difference in gasoline vs diesel prices is pretty negligible in my opinion. Where i live in CA, diesel can actually be cheaper than premium gasoline sometimes. I found full set of 8 7.3 power-stroke injectors between the 500-1000 dollar mark, not 1,500 dollars. Are the ones for $1500 performance injectors or something? Like i said, the 460 is great but i cant handle the mpg. I'll be driving city and highway that doesn't have a consistent grade most of the time so i don't know if I'll be getting 15 mpg like i might on a freeway. I like diesels because they last longer and i would like to learn to work on them as well.
 

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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrgunn5150
I'd personally rather have an IDI than a Powerstroke.

The deal I found on a truck to build was on a Powerstroke truck though, so here I am lol.
Curious, why the IDI?
 
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My pal lives in Sacramento, sent me a picture from Speedway. No 2 was $6.65 and 87 $5.99, 87 is what the gassers spec in this era of truck. Everyone knows that reoxygenated 91 bull**** you guys have there is crap and no one really uses it.

You are not getting reman injectors for a 7.3DI for $500. Sorry. https://bitterrootdiesel.com/collect...fuel-injection Cores are $500, I just purchased a set. IDI? Sure. https://idiperformance.com/shop/inje...ilt-injectors/ But, you are on a 7.3DI section. If you cannot handle the cost shock of just these items, you need to really reconsider what you are after. DI always have leaking uppipes, only good ones run you about $500. Manifolds like to leak. Anything this age will need a trans.

Long lasting is subjective. I have a gasser I6 with 330k. Another four pot with 250s. Two mod motors with 220+

I too would have preferred an IDI, I picked up my 7.3 after a natural disaster and needed a truck as other flooded. No way I would buy one before or post.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fordeverything
What does it get unloaded?
Most days 15-16, best I've gotten was 18 drive 60mph for most of that tank (back n forth to work) 60 miles round trip.

I bought mine because I always wanted a powerstroke, and I needed something to pull my camper with because my f150 dang sure wasn't going to do it lol..... I had no idea what kind of investment I had coming for me when I bought it though lol I wouldn't give it up unless someone offered me 30k, but between the truck and upgrades I have more than that in it, think I gave 6500 or something for it. Granted I didn't HAVE to go as big as I did, and some things I did twice because I wanted to make power on stock injectors (not smart....) I can tell you it's a flippin turd not modified at all, and no tuner. In the end though I still don't have in it what a new truck would cost and I'd be willing to venture a bet I have just as much HP and torque as the new trucks, it doesn't struggle at all pulling my 5th wheel camper.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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So, how does fuel mileage of a unloaded, well maintained, '90's 460 compare to that of a unloaded, well maintained, 7.3 idi or Power-stroke assuming both are driven on the highway?
 

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Originally Posted by Fordeverything
Curious, why the IDI?
Easier to work on, easier to diagnose, and easier to run on alternative fuels like I do my 4runner.
 
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I'm with Sicario X on this one, gassers are way cheaper to maintain, cost less to purchase and cheaper to re-fuel.

*Parts on Power strokes are Expensive *Maintenance is expensive (4 gallons vs 1.5 on a 460)
* And with it's age be prepare to dump in some good coin at it.
But if you are set on a diesel don't be afraid with the electronics of the powerstroke it's a simple design that with a proper scan tool you can figure stuff out quick if it goes bad.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2022 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by z31freakify
I'm with Sicario X on this one, gassers are way cheaper to maintain, cost less to purchase and cheaper to re-fuel.

*Parts on Power strokes are Expensive *Maintenance is expensive (4 gallons vs 1.5 on a 460)
* And with it's age be prepare to dump in some good coin at it.
But if you are set on a diesel don't be afraid with the electronics of the powerstroke it's a simple design that with a proper scan tool you can figure stuff out quick if it goes bad.
I just keep hearing that the 460 is a mpg horror story. Is that wrong?
 
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