2017 Platinum Payloads
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Not sure why anyone is scratching their head at this one? The Ford spec sheet shows the base model XL 4x4 CCLB 6.7L SRW as a 7,700lb truck before options. Add the options from the Platinum package (700-1000lbs extra) and subtract that from 11,500lbs.
11,500-7,700=3,800lbs payload for an XL. Say the Platinum is an 8,400lb truck... roughly 3,000lbs payload.
11,500-7,700=3,800lbs payload for an XL. Say the Platinum is an 8,400lb truck... roughly 3,000lbs payload.
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Like OverheadCam said, it all comes down to the engine. The 6.7L is a heavy engine and that costs you in payload.
Comparing a 2017 to a correctly configured 2022 is apples and oranges when it comes to the GVWR and payload. Getting the 12,400 GVWR requires specific items in the build. 6.7L, long bed F-350 are two of the minimum criteria as I recall.
Comparing a 2017 to a correctly configured 2022 is apples and oranges when it comes to the GVWR and payload. Getting the 12,400 GVWR requires specific items in the build. 6.7L, long bed F-350 are two of the minimum criteria as I recall.
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Thats what is confusing, it has the payload of an F250.
I looked several times thinking it was KG!
Yes it IS a long bed!
A Platinum really doesn't weight much more than a Lariat Ultimate. Maybe the seats are a few pound heavier, and maybe the wheels weigh a little more, but not THAT much more! I have a Platinum F150 with payload within 20 pounds of a similar optioned Lariat I used to own.
I looked several times thinking it was KG!
Yes it IS a long bed!
A Platinum really doesn't weight much more than a Lariat Ultimate. Maybe the seats are a few pound heavier, and maybe the wheels weigh a little more, but not THAT much more! I have a Platinum F150 with payload within 20 pounds of a similar optioned Lariat I used to own.
That 250 number he posted is for a gas, super cab short bed. Completely different. Ignore the random, DRW, gas, SCSB, 2020+ numbers, they will just confuse you.
A 6.7l CCLB Platinum 250 with heavy options could be as low as 1800lb(or less) payload cap. My CCSB Lariat Ultimate 250, without sunroof or 5th wheel prep has a 2240lb payload cap. Now imagine what it would be if mine was a long bed with additional heavy options.The payload capacity you are seeing on that 2017 Platinum really isn't surprising at all.
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Shouldn't be too surprised knowing that the 2017 has 22 gallons more diesel capacity, a heavier Dana rear axle, and more frame material being that it's a long bed.
What is surprising to me is that 350 has the rearGAWR of a 250.
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I checked every box when I ordered my 2019. That is not hyperbole. I even have the air bags in the rear seatbelts! It left me with 1636 lbs. of payload. I have never seen evidence of a lower payload rating in a non-derated Super Duty, so that is the worst case scenario. It is the HCTTP so the only difference between it and a 350 is one leaf spring per side. It is an apples to apples comparison with a F350 Platinum. If my super bloated truck was a 350, it would have a 3136 lbs. payload rating. Something definitely doesn't add up with your payload sticker.
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It is the HCTTP so the only difference between it and a 350 is one leaf spring per side. It is an apples to apples comparison with a F350 Platinum. If my super bloated truck was a 350, it would have a 3136 lbs. payload rating. Something definitely doesn't add up with your payload sticker.
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That is a great comparison. It's only188lb difference compared the number you get for the 350 version of your truck. Did yours have the 5th wheel prep? The 2 leaf springs that you mentioned would narrow it down a little (20lb?), so maybe 168lb difference, and we haven't seen a window sticker to compare options. Maybe they included a 5th wheel hitch on the order. I believe anything on sticker deducts from the payload rating.
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Didn't consider the 5th wheel hitch. I wonder IF that is included in the payload if ordered with the truck. Only those who bought one could say though.
What surprised me the most is that my 2012 King Ranch, has 3441 pounds of payload. Given that the all aluminum body is supposed to weigh much less, by 700 pounds according to the claims Ford made, I would at least expect to see similar payloads even taking into account the long bed and subframe. Being sub 3K is the surprising part. I thought that maybe someone stuck the wrong CCC sticker on it.
What surprised me the most is that my 2012 King Ranch, has 3441 pounds of payload. Given that the all aluminum body is supposed to weigh much less, by 700 pounds according to the claims Ford made, I would at least expect to see similar payloads even taking into account the long bed and subframe. Being sub 3K is the surprising part. I thought that maybe someone stuck the wrong CCC sticker on it.
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I think if you look again you will find that that 700lb number was in relation to the F-150 only. The Super Duty weight saving claims were never 700lbs, it was in the 300lb range according to Ford.
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Even so, 300 pounds is 300 pounds. My King ranch weighs 8059 pounds curb weight. When scaled it was 9200, though I removed a really heavy bakflip and that was with the family in it. To the 2017 weighs 500 pounds more? I would think more like maybe 8200 pounds. In any case I now have to verify payload on anything I look at and not assume it will be what I currently have.
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Even so, 300 pounds is 300 pounds. My King ranch weighs 8059 pounds curb weight. When scaled it was 9200, though I removed a really heavy bakflip and that was with the family in it. To the 2017 weighs 500 pounds more? I would think more like maybe 8200 pounds. In any case I now have to verify payload on anything I look at and not assume it will be what I currently have.
But in reality its not even 300lbs. I think if you get past that mental hurdle of weight savings from the aluminum body it's not too hard to see how additional fuel capacity, frame length and other weight adding options and differences can be a factor. Also, knowing Ford, the 350lb number could be comparing base to base. Nothing says that the options, features and finishes of the various trim levels 17+ are lighter than previous years. One example would be the pano moon roof. I imagine it weighs more than previous years. How about the power running boards, and I know I've mentioned it before, but the additional fuel capicity alone is 154lbs more when compared to your 2012....Here is a qoute from a Ford rep prior to the alumiduty release. Even this is not an accurate statement in the sense that weight savings weren't in the steel frame.
"The aluminum body and steel frame combine to reduce the Super Duty’s weight by about 350 lbs. Some of the weight savings has been reinvested in bigger components, including bigger axles, brakes, and hitch, to help with improved capability, Levine explained.
A 17+ CCLB 6.7l well equiped Lariat. Platinum, KR, Limited easily has a curb weight, as built, of 8300 and up. 8400lb not unusual. The advantage you have with a 2020+, is a higher available GVWR. Which exceeds any curb weight differences you may have.
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In that case I better look for a DRW, I am over GVWR when I put water in the FWT of the 5th wheel and there are times where the water is needed. 3441 just isn't cutting it, nor is the short bed. Every used truck I find that has just the right options are short beds. Plenty of XLT, but very few with the Sync 3 display.