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Old Apr 1, 2022 | 11:39 PM
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Pan sump

I'm saving up to put in a crate 351w in my 84 f150 and I'm unsure if it needs to be front or rear sump
In the same vein which side should the inlet of my water pump be? Does it matter?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 12:35 AM
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Trucks are all rear sump oil pans you wont be able to run a front sump on a truck.

As far as the water pump goes it should be a driverside inlet on the Ford trucks at least they are on the V-belt setups dont think the inlet hose changed on the serpentine belt but I am not too well versed on those accessory drive systems as I havent messed with them much.
 
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Originally Posted by Rusty_S
Trucks are all rear sump oil pans you wont be able to run a front sump on a truck.

As far as the water pump goes it should be a driverside inlet on the Ford trucks at least they are on the V-belt setups dont think the inlet hose changed on the serpentine belt but I am not too well versed on those accessory drive systems as I havent messed with them much.
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 06:21 AM
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You will probably need to save and re-use your old oil pan, oil pump pickup, and main support stud for your new engine.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
You will probably need to save and re-use your old oil pan, oil pump pickup, and main support stud for your new engine.
And if he is going from a 300 six than what?
Even the radiators are different between the 300 six and v8's
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 08:24 AM
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You will probably need to save and re-use your old oil pan, oil pump pickup, and main support stud for your new engine.
The instructions with my replacement engine (351W) said to replace the oil pump pickup tube instead of reusing it. It has a coarse screen that is not fully accessible for cleaning. Rockauto had them, around $30 IIRC.

For the oil pan, I would highly recommend upgrading to the one-piece rubber gasket instead of the original cork multi-piece leak generator system.

Here is some suggested reading about oil and break-in procedures, too. I've already got the T-shirt, but don't let this happen to you:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...diagnosis.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...brication.html



 
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For the pickup I used the Melling pickup for our trucks they still make it to go with my Melling M68A high pressure oil pump. The pan I got was a NOS pan I found on Ebay but it was the replacement number with some minor differences to the original pan I have on the engine that is still in my truck.

There are also aftermarket companies making steel stock replacement oil pans for our trucks I saw them quite a bit when trying to find a NOS Ford stamping.
 
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On the oil pan thing, it's best to get one that has the dipstick going in the pan. Unless you know for sure, don't count on your engine block to have the dipstick in the rear of the block. I have heard some had a plug back there you can punch out and mount the dipstick in the rear of the block but I am not sure all older v8's had this.
 
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