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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 05:33 PM
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Efuel Pressure Issue

I got to where the gauge on my FPR was sitting on zero and the truck wouldn't run well. This happened one year ago and it ended up being pieces of plastic from disintegrated fuel pickups in the tanks obviously blocking the feed line. I dropped both tanks this week and though the pickups had fallen off again they weren't in pieces and the lines were clear. Either way I just extended the feed with a union and tubing and reinstalled everything. The truck cranks and runs but still shows 0 psi at the fuel gauge. If I run a wire from the pump positive to the battery the pressure jumps right to 60 psi which is where I set it years ago. This is whether engine running or not. It appears the pump is not actually running or at least is not running well on it's native power source. Any ideas where to keep looking?

I checked the pump terminals and everything is tight. It's running through a factory relay installed in the power distribution box. Swapped relays and no change. The 20A maxi fuse installed in the PDB is still good. I have an oil pressure switch installed but from what I know it is binary and the pump shouldn't run without a reading. Just looking for more ideas. Again, the pump seems to run fine wired straight to the battery...
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 07:50 PM
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Is the pump running with the key on engine off?


what fuel pump are you using?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 08:22 PM
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Is the pump running with the key on engine off?


what fuel pump are you using?
Nah but not never runs during KOEO. It’s wired through a Napa oil pressure switch commonly used in the DIY efuel systems. And it’s an OEM super duty pump.

I’m wondering if the oil pressure switch is bad. The system is not terribly sophisticated and I THINK I’ve ruled out fuses, relays, and a bad pump.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 08:37 PM
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I am not an expert on how the oil pressure switches work. My system has a driven diesel obs wiring harness. The oil pressure switch let’s the pump run for 20 seconds with the key on. If it’s not started in that 20 seconds it shuts the pump off. You could be on the right track with your thinking, I just have experience with how mine is set-up.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2022 | 12:01 AM
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Does wiring direct to battery include a ground to battery from pump too?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2022 | 08:45 AM
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You would not be the first to have a problem with the oil pressure switch. I have never had one on my e fuel and i have read where others took it out of the system. By pass it and see what happens. I think you are on the right track also.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2022 | 08:53 AM
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You would not be the first to have a problem with the oil pressure switch. I have never had one on my e fuel and i have read where others took it out of the system. By pass it and see what happens. I think you are on the right track also.
I got rid of mine also, its next to impossible to find a good oil pressure switch.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2022 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by idshred
I am not an expert on how the oil pressure switches work. My system has a driven diesel obs wiring harness. The oil pressure switch let’s the pump run for 20 seconds with the key on. If it’s not started in that 20 seconds it shuts the pump off. You could be on the right track with your thinking, I just have experience with how mine is set-up.
This switch is supposed to send power to the fuel pump after only a small pressure input. So basically turn the key and as soon as the switch gets a reading the pump kicks on. The switch is threaded into a little port above the oil filter. 1/8" npt if I remember correctly.

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Does wiring direct to battery include a ground to battery from pump too?
Nah, I run a wire straight to the battery positive and just leave the pump's current ground to the frame in place.

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You would not be the first to have a problem with the oil pressure switch. I have never had one on my e fuel and i have read where others took it out of the system. By pass it and see what happens. I think you are on the right track also.
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I got rid of mine also, its next to impossible to find a good oil pressure switch.
Right on y'all. This gives me some hope that it's that easy then. For those who didn't use or removed a switch, what do you run instead?

I'm also curious how the engine cranks and stays running at all without a functioning pump.
 
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I THINK one of the guys here runs an inertia switch from a gasser. @nateairman maybe does As for me, I figure if I roll over in this truck I am going to die anyway so I do not care about such features...and oil pouring out and back will stall the engine due to no pressure to pop the injectors.

Good deal on the wiring, I had considered a crap ground may be your issue.

Why it runs with no pump, I have heard it is possible but not experienced. When my old Walbro died, that was it...dead. I guess maybe due to it seized and not lack of power. Also makes me want to get a 7.3 SD Boosch pump on there as it is Diesel rated. The Walbro is not.
 
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
I THINK one of the guys here runs an inertia switch from a gasser. @nateairman maybe does As for me, I figure if I roll over in this truck I am going to die anyway so I do not care about such features...and oil pouring out and back will stall the engine due to no pressure to pop the injectors.

Good deal on the wiring, I had considered a crap ground may be your issue.

Why it runs with no pump, I have heard it is possible but not experienced. When my old Walbro died, that was it...dead. I guess maybe due to it seized and not lack of power. Also makes me want to get a 7.3 SD Boosch pump on there as it is Diesel rated. The Walbro is not.
I do run an inertia switch in series with the fuel bowl heater circuit before the pump relay.
 
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When my wiring went on my pump the engine would idle with o fuel pressure but would not rev at all.
 
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My pump has died but I was able to drive it a short distance to find a place to pull over. The injectors themselves will suck fuel but its real hard on the injectors. In the thread about a stolen OBS a guy mentioned a toggle switch cutting off the pump isn't going to work because there is fuel in there and it will start.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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Lots of great input. For now I’ll swap the oil pressure switch and see how that goes. So long as it’s the fix I’ll look for the next move to ideally eliminate it altogether. Will report back ASAP. Thank you all.
 
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