PTO uses
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Mountain Pass
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PTO uses
I have a PTO on my T-18. Couple questions. What can I use this for? I know it could run a winch or dump box, but anything else? I hate having it but not using it. Also, it faces backward currently. Can it be flipped to face the front of the truck for a winch or something?
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Winches don’t run off of PTO’s. PTO’s operate various forms of drive shaft propelled farm equipment. Sounds like someone installed an aftermarket PTO to operate some kind of specific piece of equipment for their business or farm. That being the case. You’re probably sol regarding using anything other than that exact piece of equipment previous owner used. Unless you have that same exact piece of equipment or fabricate your current attachment set up to accept another piece of equipment that you intend to use. You are limited to not being able to use it. Definitely useable. But, you just can’t grab any random piece of equipment and it work. You have to fabricate an attachment for that specific equipment.
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Back in the day winches were run by PTO's front & rear.
Because it was a PITA to run the drive shaft from PTO to the winch or any equipment is why you now see electric winches.
It could be that trans came from a different truck and they moved trans & PTO as a whole, say from a tow truck, as it's winch would be run off a PTO.
I also dont think it can be turned to face forward and you also have to look at what way it turns CW or CCW for what ever you need to run.
My work truck, 18 wheeler, has 2 PTO's to run 2 different types of equipment.
1 runs the drive shaft all the way out the rear that I hook up a drive shaft from the LP trailer pump to it to pump off 10,000 gallons of LP.
The other turns a blower, HVLP, used to blow off 25 tons of cement that uses a hose between truck & trailer.
You may find other info in here using search as I think there was something I seen before.
I remember something about the PTO had to be shimmed just right for gear mesh.
Dave ----
Because it was a PITA to run the drive shaft from PTO to the winch or any equipment is why you now see electric winches.
It could be that trans came from a different truck and they moved trans & PTO as a whole, say from a tow truck, as it's winch would be run off a PTO.
I also dont think it can be turned to face forward and you also have to look at what way it turns CW or CCW for what ever you need to run.
My work truck, 18 wheeler, has 2 PTO's to run 2 different types of equipment.
1 runs the drive shaft all the way out the rear that I hook up a drive shaft from the LP trailer pump to it to pump off 10,000 gallons of LP.
The other turns a blower, HVLP, used to blow off 25 tons of cement that uses a hose between truck & trailer.
You may find other info in here using search as I think there was something I seen before.
I remember something about the PTO had to be shimmed just right for gear mesh.
Dave ----
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Well one time when pumping off that motor broke the mounting the bolts and the motor flipped around till a hose broke spitting oil all over, was not pretty.
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Thanks for the input. All the military vehicles I’ve worked on had PTO-driven winches. They are dangerous though. This truck was used by a fire department all it’s life and had a tank and pump on the back. That is what the pto was for.
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I recently bought a T19 that was used on a dump truck. It came with a PTO and the octagon driveshaft and PTO cable w/****.
I intend on running the driveshaft to the midship fuel tank skid plate and mounting a hydraulic pump and reservoir tank.
Since I went to a 38 gallon fuel tank in the rear and removed the midship tank the empty space were the old 19 gallon was located has a nice HD skid plate.
luckily the driveshaft is just the right length to drop 5 inches from the front leading edge of the skid plate.
I have thought about running a 3 point hitch on the back of the truck but not sure yet.
I intend on running the driveshaft to the midship fuel tank skid plate and mounting a hydraulic pump and reservoir tank.
Since I went to a 38 gallon fuel tank in the rear and removed the midship tank the empty space were the old 19 gallon was located has a nice HD skid plate.
luckily the driveshaft is just the right length to drop 5 inches from the front leading edge of the skid plate.
I have thought about running a 3 point hitch on the back of the truck but not sure yet.
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I recently bought a T19 that was used on a dump truck. It came with a PTO and the octagon driveshaft and PTO cable w/****.
I intend on running the driveshaft to the midship fuel tank skid plate and mounting a hydraulic pump and reservoir tank.
Since I went to a 38 gallon fuel tank in the rear and removed the midship tank the empty space were the old 19 gallon was located has a nice HD skid plate.
luckily the driveshaft is just the right length to drop 5 inches from the front leading edge of the skid plate.
I have thought about running a 3 point hitch on the back of the truck but not sure yet.
I intend on running the driveshaft to the midship fuel tank skid plate and mounting a hydraulic pump and reservoir tank.
Since I went to a 38 gallon fuel tank in the rear and removed the midship tank the empty space were the old 19 gallon was located has a nice HD skid plate.
luckily the driveshaft is just the right length to drop 5 inches from the front leading edge of the skid plate.
I have thought about running a 3 point hitch on the back of the truck but not sure yet.
So to move fluid from 1 tank to another you need to be stopped and idle RPM to work the pump.
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So I figured like a tractor with a live PTO I could run a brush hog, log splitter, lift gate and a dump trailer. Two ways to shut it down during implement changes could be accomplished by a deverter valve or disengage the PTO its self.
With the cost of a 4wd tractor now a days it looks like a cost effective alternative. Or maybe I am nuts. Lol.
sorry for the hijacking of the thread.
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Hi Dave,
So I figured like a tractor with a live PTO I could run a brush hog, log splitter, lift gate and a dump trailer. Two ways to shut it down during implement changes could be accomplished by a deverter valve or disengage the PTO its self.
With the cost of a 4wd tractor now a days it looks like a cost effective alternative. Or maybe I am nuts. Lol.
sorry for the hijacking of the thread.
So I figured like a tractor with a live PTO I could run a brush hog, log splitter, lift gate and a dump trailer. Two ways to shut it down during implement changes could be accomplished by a deverter valve or disengage the PTO its self.
With the cost of a 4wd tractor now a days it looks like a cost effective alternative. Or maybe I am nuts. Lol.
sorry for the hijacking of the thread.
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Well it ain't gonna be quite like a live PTO cause you'll lose power every time you clutch in, but if you can learn to plan your work around that then you could do what you're thinking. With a creeper gear and low range you should be able to just idle your way around to satisfy the input/output speed requirements of the PTO itself. Do keep in mind that brush hogs are very slow to lose speed once spun up, so you'll need some sort of 1-way clutch to allow them to keep freewheeling when the PTO itself has slowed down or stopped so the shafts don't get all torn apart. Now I'm thinking if you're gonna be running a hydraulic pump anyway, what's stopping you from running a hydraulic motor on your hog or whatever, and avoid all the Defender Series 1 type bull**** with PTO shafts all over the place.
I will admit I have a lot to learn on this subject. The idea isn't originally mine. I welded up a 3 point set up for my neighbor down the road. He ran hard lines from the pump to the tank to a drive unit and a separate set of lines to lift the implement. He also had a control valve and return on the side at the rear of the bed.
his project was for a augur attachment it was pretty slick. I will have to set up a heavier rear spring set.
I just put the old diesel dirt soaked PTO in a bucket of diesel.
I realized that the PTO came off the passenger side of my T19. I don't know if I can flip the drive gear and use the same type 100 PTO on the drivers side? The output shaft would have to go the other direction towards the rear. Hopefully I can flip the drive gear and hopefully there are provisions on the housing to point the output shaft the opposing direction and hopefully soaking overnight in #2 and some toothbrush action maybe I will have my answer tomorrow.
thanks for your post appreciate your time.
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I can't say I fully understand a truck PTO operation I have used tractor PTO since I was about 12. If I understand the truck PTO correctly it will be powered in neutral and if the truck is in gear when the unit is engaged like a tractor. So I assume it's similar to a tractor in that way.
thank you for your time and reply is greatly appreciated.
More Turbo
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Yeah for example the mobile crane at my old job automatically goes into high idle when you engage the PTO for the hydro pump, but I didn't wanna muddy the waters here just yet 😇