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More Turbo
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I realized that the PTO came off the passenger side of my T19. I don't know if I can flip the drive gear and use the same type 100 PTO on the drivers side? The output shaft would have to go the other direction towards the rear. Hopefully I can flip the drive gear and hopefully there are provisions on the housing to point the output shaft the opposing direction and hopefully soaking overnight in #2 and some toothbrush action maybe I will have my answer tomorrow.
thanks for your post appreciate your time.
thanks for your post appreciate your time.
Tractor PTOs can be live or not, depends on how the machine got designed. Truck PTOs on what we're working with here are never live as they run off the transmission so as soon as you clutch in to change gears the PTOs loses power input. The PTOs shouldn't care if the transmission is in gear or not (as pointed out, salt spreaders work when truck is in motion), it cares if the clutch is in or out - so as long as clutch pedal is released the PTO will receive power on its input. Does your PTO have a lever/cable setup to disconnect its input from the output (it should), or is this missing?
Believe Nothing
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From: W. Central FL.
Hi raytasch,
I can't say I fully understand a truck PTO operation I have used tractor PTO since I was about 12. If I understand the truck PTO correctly it will be powered in neutral and if the truck is in gear when the unit is engaged like a tractor. So I assume it's similar to a tractor in that way.
thank you for your time and reply is greatly appreciated.
I can't say I fully understand a truck PTO operation I have used tractor PTO since I was about 12. If I understand the truck PTO correctly it will be powered in neutral and if the truck is in gear when the unit is engaged like a tractor. So I assume it's similar to a tractor in that way.
thank you for your time and reply is greatly appreciated.
Laughing Gas
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From: North Westren Missouri
What's the issue with the PTO being on the passenger side of the truck? That's usually beneficial as on the driver side you have a transfer case (for 4x4 trucks) and a fuel tank or a hydraulic tank (or both as I've seen a fuel tank modified for hydraulic pump use). On the passenger side you only have the exhaust, which is typically way easier to reroute if it's about to interfere with something.
Tractor PTOs can be live or not, depends on how the machine got designed. Truck PTOs on what we're working with here are never live as they run off the transmission so as soon as you clutch in to change gears the PTOs loses power input. The PTOs shouldn't care if the transmission is in gear or not (as pointed out, salt spreaders work when truck is in motion), it cares if the clutch is in or out - so as long as clutch pedal is released the PTO will receive power on its input. Does your PTO have a lever/cable setup to disconnect its input from the output (it should), or is this missing?
Tractor PTOs can be live or not, depends on how the machine got designed. Truck PTOs on what we're working with here are never live as they run off the transmission so as soon as you clutch in to change gears the PTOs loses power input. The PTOs shouldn't care if the transmission is in gear or not (as pointed out, salt spreaders work when truck is in motion), it cares if the clutch is in or out - so as long as clutch pedal is released the PTO will receive power on its input. Does your PTO have a lever/cable setup to disconnect its input from the output (it should), or is this missing?
I was hoping to use the now removed fuel tank skid plate as a mount for a pump. After reading your post and crawling under ol'blue I see what your talking about. I didn't remember how tight the drivers side was. Thank you
I can use the skid plate as a place to mount the tank.
we understand the operation now. Thanks for explaining it to me. It's a cable controlled PTO. It came with everything from the PTO ****, cable, bracket and PTO. The whole mess. It definitely came off a diesel. the transmission where covered in black oil soot. That's why I have the PTO soaking in #2 diesel overnight.
plans are to take it apart see what needs replacing order a new set of seals and make a new cover and base gaskets.
Thanks for your post and input. It's greatly appreciated.
Laughing Gas
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From: North Westren Missouri
I am familiar with live and non live PTOs as used on tractors as I have restored a few old Fords, Ns, hundred and thousand series, and have more than a couple of hours seat time. I believe most truck PTOs would be considered a non live PTO in that the clutch must be ENGAGED for the PTO to be operational; so long as the transmission gears are turning and the PTO is engaged.
I must have not typed what I was thinking above. Sometimes when typing on this website if I make a correction it jumbles the words and screws up the entire paragraph.
I end up going through the entire and losing my train of thought and hence screwing up my post entirely.
you sound like a tinkerer too. Theses a Ford 4wd 15** series tractor with a loader for sale. Nice rig but I didn't feel that the price was worth it. At least for me.
thanks for your interest and your post it's greatly appreciated.
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