Last summer I bought a complete factory ford ac setup from a v8 f100 for a couple of hundred dollars. Very good condition dash controls, heater/evaporator box with vacuum lines and condenser. All I need is a pump, ac lines and bracket. I can make a bracket easily enough. I’m gonna buy a new condenser as the one I got is a little beat up. I already have the correct crank shaft pulley from a PO.

I know its popular to go to aftermarket underdash systems but I should be blowing cold air for well under $1000 this way. While using the factory ford setup with a newer style high efficiency pump. Not thrilled about the loss of engine bay space but honestly it’s not gonna change much except for the back passenger spark plug.


Searching for sanden compressors brought up this

https://www.originalair.com/76-79-ford-f-series-bronco-hipo-ac-rotary-compressor-upgrade-kit?matchtype=&network=g&device=m&adposition=&keyw ord=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxJCnpu6Z9gIV1hvUAR1RgQdLEAQ YAiABEgJrCPD_BwE


which is a original air kit with bracket lines compressor and dryer. Does anyone else know of a better deal than this?

Im guessing ac lines are going to be around $75 to have made locally. Pumps seem to be going for $400 and up. This is a well known company that knows about ac in ford trucks thats recommending this specific pump and products with it.

Are all sanden pumps made equal as far as volume and pressure? And would all of them work with our ac systems? Most don’t come with a dryer either. This kit is a little bit more than I wanted to pay for all these parts. But I like the piece of mind of the pump and everything with it being recommended for trucks like ours. With this kit and a new condenser I should be ready to install.

what do you guys thinks? Think I’m blowing my money and should go with a all aftermarket system? Or keep the ford set up and instead of a newer expensive compressor use a older style? The older style seems to only be $200-$300.

 

I used this set up with my existing factory air system and it works great. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. I think the more complete version is what you're talking about.

76-79 F-Series Truck/78-79 Bronco AC Compressor Kit V8 STAGE-1 | Original Air Group

 

I think that’s exactly what I linked to and was talking about except your link is real pretty. Thank you! Glad to hear it does work with the factory setup

 

This is what it looks like installed. I have the tools to crimp the hoses supplied in the kit but if you don't that would be the only thing you'd need to figure out. it was an easy job to install.

 

Do yourself a huge favor, find a OEM bracket set up for the compressor ... and the pulleys. It'll help with belts, crank pulleys, power steering too. Not just for any V-8, but for the same V-8 that you have.

 

The correct pulley coming with the compressor I linked is one of the reasons I am leaning toward that kit.

Looking at your picture 440 I didn’t know the factory setup used an idler over by the alternator. I thought the bracket the compressor mounted on slid and that’s how it was tensioned.

If all else fails I can make an idler bracket and compressor mount but I’d rather find a whole idler bracket if I can. If the compressor mount doesn’t have to have a sliding action it will be even easier to make. The idler is gonna be a little harder with having to find a certain pulley size.

My truck is factory no ac, with a dealer installed kit half removed when I got the truck. I removed an old ugly compressor mount but no idler. The way mine was set up the belt went right from the crank to the compressor I believe.

 

The idler you see under the compressor was to stop the bely slap from the York style compressor. it's not needed with a Sanden. the tendioner pulley it on top to the side of the compressor and is pretty standard fare.

All the brackets in the kit do is mount the Sanden in place of the York it's not adjustable nor does it take the place of any original bracket or pulley.

 

My '77 doesn't have that extra idler under the compressor, but that pulley you mentioned over by the alternator isn't that far over, it is the adjust tension pulley nearer the compressor, just how it looks in his picture. Belt runs from compressor down to the dedicated crank pulley, then up to the adjust pulley, then back over compressor pulley.

 

The picture is a 428 ( FE ) I've never seen that slack idler on anything else I think it's because it's such a long distance the way the set is. when I had the York on it you needed it or the belts would set up a vibration.

 

I didn't see mention of a pulley being included? It's a kit to swap an existing York out for the Sanden. You will also need the extra AC drive crank pulley. The belt misses the water pump thanks to the adjustment pulley. Attached is a picture I saved awhile back because the fenders are out of the way. Not sure whose it was, but it's plumb full of details.

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The clutch includes the compressor pulley. no other pulleys are included .

All the factory components should be easy to find. the idler pulley and bracket are available at any parts store. if you have a 335 series the compressor mount would be the same off any car or pickup. it's all common stuff but getting a whole set up off a junker would be the easiest and cheapest.

I'm sure the whole aftermarket kit is fine but I'm not a fan of aftermarket A/C myself I'd go the extra mile to get factory air. the Sanden compressor is like radial tires an acceptable upgrade .

 

The additional belt slap pulley may have been standard on later years or buried deep in a TSB with the dead sea scrolls for earlier years to cover low speed vibration customer complaints. Sanden compressors come in many sizes and rated by CI and RPM. Pulley diameter and over driven/overdriven rpm becomes an issue. Tell you what, back in the day a factory air system with a R12 would freeze your nads off and put dew on the back window. OT but I really like the OEM, not a fan of adaption and can't stand he looks of R134 hose connectors or hose adaptors. Just my rant and sorry if offended anyone.

 

I agree, but why put $200 of freon in a vibrating leaking York pump every year or two when a Sanden does the same jobs smooth and cheap. I was on my 3rd Youk when I finally said enough already. the rebuilts are crap and the chinese new ones are worse. if I could buy a new US made York I would have.

Like I said it's like radial tires. not correct but so much better you have to give in. in my opinion.

 

I really don't recall too bad of a vibration until opening the hood while it idled, it does have a flywheel to dampen it ... some. But I agree about the leakage of the shaft seals and freon. Back in the day, wasn't so bad cost wise.

I often wonder how the replacement refrigerants do, but I guess all Yorks will still leak.

 

Hello,
What model sanden did you use? SD5? how many CC? 90,140,155? is your compressor a standard or shorty to clear the valve covers?

Everyone sells a "sanden" made in china knock-off. I recently upgraded my square body and feel my compressor is undersized.

thanks,
Chris