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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 06:13 PM
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The BARO readings on this model come from the MAF sensor.
It only has a "simple" MAF 4-wire sensor. No BARO function on this one. There are other engines that do have BARO and/or IAT built into the MAF sensor assembly but not on this one.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 05:14 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 05:15 PM
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I just got the truck back and this is the freeze frame data from it.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 06:38 PM
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I unplugged the battery and let it sit for half an hour then went for a short drive. Now I'm getting p1131 and p1151. I also noticed that it has O2 sensor spacers on the upper O2 sensors. Would this contribute to the codes I'm having?
it's idling better after the MAF was replaced.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 07:25 PM
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Are you sure those spacers are on the UPSTREAM sensors (not the downstream ones)? If so, that needs to be corrected as the upstream sensors MUST be directly in the exhaust stream for them to work properly. Who the heck puts spacers on the upstream sensors?

Is this a recently acquired truck or what?

 
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 07:33 PM
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They are on the first O2 sensors (I can see them from the engine bay). And yeah. I bought it about a year ago and life took over. I put probably 100 miles on it since I owned it.
I'll take them out tomorrow and see if it fixes it. I'm hoping this is all it is. My 97 f150 has the head gasket oil leak and it's dripping on the starter and blowing onto the exhaust and smokes.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 07:40 AM
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Well, if some previous owner yay-hoo installed them, he was trying to compensate for something.... and it didn't work.


 
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin01
I unplugged the battery and let it sit for half an hour then went for a short drive. Now I'm getting p1131 and p1151. I also noticed that it has O2 sensor spacers on the upper O2 sensors. Would this contribute to the codes I'm having?
it's idling better after the MAF was replaced.
I hope it’s those spacers being an issue, because my other thought is those isolator bolts and the intake not being torqued down properly. All four of those codes, when I have gotten them, have been due to those issues.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 12:03 PM
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My general rule is to fix the obvious stuff first and then re-evaluate.

The disclosure of the O2 spacers on the upstream sensors is a glaringly obvious problem. In such a position, they cannot do their job of accurately measuring oxygen content of the exhaust stream and will cause mixture and response problems.

 
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Originally Posted by Johnny Paycheck
I hope it’s those spacers being an issue, because my other thought is those isolator bolts and the intake not being torqued down properly. All four of those codes, when I have gotten them, have been due to those issues.
I already replaced the isolator bolts and the upper gasket.
 
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I took all 4 of the spacers off and I'm still getting the p1131 and p1151 at idle Does this mean I have a vacuum leak to look for?
 
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Did you reset the PCM's memory?

 
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 05:01 PM
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I took the negative battery cable off for about half an hour.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 05:03 PM
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I did end up unplugging the IAC valve and the engine died and it sounded like it was hissing air possibly back out of the intake before the throttle body?
 
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Like to see you clear the codes with a scan tool and then retest
The system has to relearn idle speed and a few more parameters each time the KAM is interrupted
So when it dies it can set a rash of new or other codes
The 1131 and 1151 may be solved after you removed the O2 sensor spacers
But codes could persist for a few cycles
Means clear codes and retest a few times
 
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