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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 07:40 AM
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I think potential customers need to report this price gouging by Ford and GM dealers to Ford and GM. Then we'll see if the dog has any bite. There is absolutely no way I would pay any amount above MSRP. I would rather walk and being a retiree of Ford there is no way I would pay anything above my employee pricing.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RGrew176
I think potential customers need to report this price gouging by Ford and GM dealers to Ford and GM. Then we'll see if the dog has any bite. There is absolutely no way I would pay any amount above MSRP. I would rather walk and being a retiree of Ford there is no way I would pay anything above my employee pricing.
The dog has no bite.

Ford doesn't need customers to report price gouging. The dealers are advertising their extravagant prices on their web sites. Ford has regional sales reps in the dealer's facilities on a regular basis. Ford has corporate finance reps in the dealer's facilities on a regular basis. Ford knows what is happening and where.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 09:33 AM
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Well robbery requires force, threat, or intimidation…people are paying the price willingly.

The entire car market from top to bottom is inflated.

Really I feel bad for those who “need” a vehicle.

Most of us are in the “want” category.

On a positive note I could sell my 06 Cummins for more than I paid for my first house…

 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by shawnee1
The dog has no bite.

Ford doesn't need customers to report price gouging. The dealers are advertising their extravagant prices on their web sites. Ford has regional sales reps in the dealer's facilities on a regular basis. Ford has corporate finance reps in the dealer's facilities on a regular basis. Ford knows what is happening and where.
I'm sure that Ford will be outraged like congress was with the bailout money thing and it blows away quickly with a stern wag of the finger.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 629
Well robbery requires force, threat, or intimidation…people are paying the price willingly.

The entire car market from top to bottom is inflated.

Really I feel bad for those who “need” a vehicle.

Most of us are in the “want” category.

On a positive note I could sell my 06 Cummins for more than I paid for my first house…
Yes but what else paints a more melodramatic picture?

I understand it isn't popular but what right do we have to complain when we constantly brag about taking a car BELOW MSRP before this began?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 10:14 AM
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Yes but what else paints a more melodramatic picture?

I understand it isn't popular but what right do we have to complain when we constantly brag about taking a car BELOW MSRP before this began?
Right! I always say at work….I only complain to make myself feel better…it’s not changing anything…
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 10:37 AM
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Right! I always say at work….I only complain to make myself feel better…it’s not changing anything…
This is a case where I have to remember that today, it is MY turn in the barrel. I took my turn when HE was in the barrel before and I will take it with him when it becomes my turn again.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 10:41 AM
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I don't know if this will happen with dealerships because the purchase frequency is so low, but after 9/11 there were a number of gas stations that started gouging hours after the event. At least two went out of business as word got around and people simply refused to go there....even after they dropped their prices back down.

There may be some of that with gouging on new cars/trucks if people are aware. Only a small percentage are aware of it since most people aren't looking at new vehicles very often.

Back in the 90's I was looking at trucks and Dodge had come out with their new (at the time) style that had the 50's era semi tractor front end. It was hugely popular and a local dealership was charging above MSRP for them. I laughed at them when they said they wouldn't come down off of that. They're gone now too.

Shrug - I'm avoiding all purchases that feel inflated in pricing if I can.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 629

On a positive note I could sell my 06 Cummins for more than I paid for my first house
Im probably than you. My ordered 2022 F350 stickers for 4 TIMES what I paid for our first house in 1972. But my take home pay was $103/week at that time. Today I spend that much or more just going out to dinner.

Here’s a paycheck from 1971. Worked 1 day that week and made $5.50. AfterFICA taxes it was $5.21. I put $5 in credit union so my take home pay was 21 cents for that week.




 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 10:56 AM
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Im probably than you. My ordered 2022 F350 stickers for 4 TIMES what I paid for our first house in 1972. But my take home pay was $103/week at that time. Today I spend that much or more just going out to dinner.

Here’s a paycheck from 1971. Worked 1 day that week and made $5.50. AfterFICA taxes it was $5.21. I put $5 in credit union so my take home pay was 21 cents for that week.


That’s awesome you still have that stub!

Kids don’t even bend over to pickup a quarter anymore.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hwk-I-St8
I don't know if this will happen with dealerships because the purchase frequency is so low, but after 9/11 there were a number of gas stations that started gouging hours after the event. At least two went out of business as word got around and people simply refused to go there....even after they dropped their prices back down.

There may be some of that with gouging on new cars/trucks if people are aware. Only a small percentage are aware of it since most people aren't looking at new vehicles very often.

Back in the 90's I was looking at trucks and Dodge had come out with their new (at the time) style that had the 50's era semi tractor front end. It was hugely popular and a local dealership was charging above MSRP for them. I laughed at them when they said they wouldn't come down off of that. They're gone now too.

Shrug - I'm avoiding all purchases that feel inflated in pricing if I can.
I have seen that happen before but without investigation, I don't know if it it happened because of that incident or whether it was something else. Businesses close for many reasons. I also know someone who did that and built a bigger addition and sold it to a chain for a profit. I have seen too many prospering businesses that are bad to believe that doing bad things results in their closure. Many move on to better things.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 629
Kids don’t even bend over to pickup a quarter anymore.
Kids might not, but I still do! Spends better out of my pocket than it does theirs....
 
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Old Feb 14, 2022 | 09:44 PM
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Kids might not, but I still do! Spends better out of my pocket than it does theirs....
I personally can't wait till physical currency is done with. I haven't had cash in my wallet for more than 25 years. When I need to for strippers or Brat Fry days, I go to the ATM.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2022 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by shawnee1
The dog has no bite.

Ford doesn't need customers to report price gouging. The dealers are advertising their extravagant prices on their web sites. Ford has regional sales reps in the dealer's facilities on a regular basis. Ford has corporate finance reps in the dealer's facilities on a regular basis. Ford knows what is happening and where.
Kind of figured that the dog was toothless.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2022 | 06:11 AM
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I recall this in 2006 when I ordered a new Mustang GT. I live near an Army base. Soldiers were coming home with wads of combat pay. They didn't really care to negotiate and just paid the price. Dealers took advantage of that and pretty much ignored locals who were used to negotiating. So at that time Mustangs were going for $2-3k above sticker locally. I went to another dealer about 125 miles away and did not pay close to sticker to order the car. Which I still have 15 plus years later.
And you're right. In the current situation it's not exactly like they're putting any shade on it. They're posting the prices for everyone to see. Fortunately I had a great situation and being a personal friend of the dealer helped me get what now appears to be a ridiculously good deal on my new 2022.
I've seen a few posts about Ford corporate or the CEO supposedly doing something about this phenomenon, but never a link or any documentation to back it up.
Hahahahaha! Yes absolutely. "Hey Sgt!! Check out my new whip!! I paid full price BUT it came with a full tank of gas!!!"

Most of the dudes I knew weren't infantry because they were going to cure cancer someday. Besides, after you come back to a place where the road doesn't blow up under you, blowing money on stuff that plays music louder than that incessant ringing in your ears just feels like a victory lap.

IN fact the funniest thing I saw was a guy that spent four years on a submarine as a mechanic got out and rented the smallest apartment I have ever seen in my life then bought the largest speakers I have ever seen in my life. So large that the bass would retard their own cones because the room was so small and the sound waves would hit the speakers back. You'd think being on a sub would make him want a big room, but I guess when you are crate trained, you end up liking your crate....but I digress....

I'm all for the crazy high prices that dealers charge. Freedom. Plus, proves to the mfg AND the market that the dealers are an unneeded piece of the chain and we should be buying straight from the mfg if we want. It's only scalping if you lean over and hand them a tomahawk. Hope they all go bust. I've never needed to test drive a car. I know what I want and have never been shocked that something performed a certain way based on a test drive. Id like to order all my cars for the rest of my life.
 
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