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I have a personal rule that whenever I go more than a couple hours from home I always bring my jumper box and air compressor combo as well as my full size Jack. Just trying to stay ahead of Murphy’s law.
Anyway my old jumper box is toast as it’s no longer taking a charge. I’ve got a road trip coming up in a couple weeks so I need a new box. Just curious what you all are using? I’d like to stick with one that has a built in air compressor.
I carried one of these Stanley Jump Starter and Compressors when we had our Pathfinder. I never had to use it to jump us off but I did use it several times to top off our camper tires (205/75 R14) before leaving for trips. It sat in the car for about 4 years and it worked when I needed it too. I'd say the battery life wasn't the same (based on how long the air compressor would hold up), but that was also because we didn't plug it in monthly and maintain it exactly as it called for.
Anyway, once I got my SD, I didn't figure it would work to crank the 6.7L PSD. I also had plans to install an air compressor and tank under the truck and running a QD to the back of the truck, which I have done. I also picked up the NOCO GB150 and keep it in the truck. So, they aren't an all in one unit, but I am liking it better. The air compressor and tank is just as easy to use, but works faster. And the charge box is smaller, so easier to carry around and stores better in the truck. The battery life lasts longer than on the Stanley unit, so I don't have to worry about charging it up every month... although I still have to maintain it. I will admit though, I do worry about it during the summer months cause it gets super hot in the vehicle!
Before you give up on your jump box, see if the battery is replaceable. My old jump box would no longer take a charge. I removed a cover plate and found the battery was a standard lead/acid battery used for wheelchairs. I ordered a replacement from Amazon for $50. The battery had quick disconnect plugs so it was easy to change out for the new one. That was in 2018 and the jump box is still working fine.
I did buy a NOCO GB150 in 2019 as it was at a great sale price. The new lithium battery jump boxes are smaller and hold their charge longer on the shelf than the lead/acid. The NOCO is kept in the vehicle. The old one is kept in the garage and is used whenever a need arises at home.
Before you give up on your jump box, see if the battery is replaceable. My old jump box would no longer take a charge. I removed a cover plate and found the battery was a standard lead/acid battery used for wheelchairs. I ordered a replacement from Amazon for $50. The battery had quick disconnect plugs so it was easy to change out for the new one. That was in 2018 and the jump box is still working fine.
I did buy a NOCO GB150 in 2019 as it was at a great sale price. The new lithium battery jump boxes are smaller and hold their charge longer on the shelf than the lead/acid. The NOCO is kept in the vehicle. The old one is kept in the garage and is used whenever a need arises at home.
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I've done this a couple times on a couple expensive jumpers. Disassemble the jumper box and buy an exact replacement battery/ battery set. Spend a half hour in time and $50 to refresh the jumper to new.
Check out this thread. This isn't my install, but I copied it exactly. Installed an ARB CKMA12 air compressor and a 2.5 gallon air tank above the spare tire, so I didn't really lose any space. I ran a line from the tank to the back of the truck and drilled a hole next to the license plate and installed the QD. This is perfect to just hook an air hose to and it easily reaches any of the trucks tires, as well as my camper's tires. Then a few days ago I ran another air line from the tank to the front of my truck and installed an air horn!
I agree with the above posts about replacing the battery in the jump box. I too have done this. Very easy. That box stays in my wife's car now and on the boat during the summer. Now in my truck is a lithium jumper that also has a light and USB ports. It also has an OBDII connector that allows me to change out a battery without resetting presets and computer.
Not much help for us 6.7 folks but if you have 6.2 or 7.3, you might look at a product from OZ Charge. I carry one in my vette. Never need to keep it charged and self charges from your dead battery in a minute or two. I use the 750 but they also make a 1000 but that’s still not enough for the 6.7 engine.
Lithium or not, it's my extensive experience that if a jump box doesn't weigh at least 15 pounds, it isn't worth a bag of pee. Those tiny little ones can crank 100 amps for up to one second, then they are deader 'n dead. I don't care what they are rated at, they aren't worth anything but a urine sample if you partook right before your lab draw.
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I last purchased this box in 2015 and it has been plugged in since then. Have only had to use it a couple times since then and worked every time, no issues. This has even started two diesel trucks so it has some power. The other experience I have with this brand is my department used to have a couple of them and they got used multiple times a week. This was before our cars had LED lights and guys would forget to power things down or turn the radio's or laptops off and the batteries would be dead overnight. These boxes worked flawlessly. Other than it weighing a lot more then a newer style box no down side what so ever.
Lithium or not, it's my extensive experience that if a jump box doesn't weigh at least 15 pounds, it isn't worth a bag of pee. Those tiny little ones can crank 100 amps for up to one second, then they are deader 'n dead. I don't care what they are rated at, they aren't worth anything but a urine sample if you partook right before your lab draw.
the Noco genius g150 actually works great. It starts my diesel equipment in sub zero temps easily. It also has the capacity for many starts, and will hold a significant charge for a long time. Well worth the investment. I carry one in the vehicle, and leave one at home for the equipment. I put two smaller ones in the cars
the Noco genius g150 actually works great. It starts my diesel equipment in sub zero temps easily. It also has the capacity for many starts, and will hold a significant charge for a long time. Well worth the investment. I carry one in the vehicle, and leave one at home for the equipment. I put two smaller ones in the cars
I haven't gotten to use my NOCO GB150 yet, but everything I have seen (assuming it's not a lemon) indicates and demonstrates that it does exactly what you said, and it only weighs 6.39 lbs according to the specs. It's also listed at 3000A at peak... whether or not that's true, I can't say, but it should be plenty to start even our 6.7L PSD's. For fun, here's a video of a guy disconnecting the batteries on his 7.3L diesel and cranking his truck from just the NOCO GB150 (at 3:30 in the video. And to be fair, he also does comment later in the video that some have reported in super cold weather that some have reported they wouldn't crank their truck...) So while I haven't tested it myself, I will say that I'm not worried it won't...
The entire difference between a tiny little lithium purse-carried jump pack and an actual JUMP PACK is that a purse-pack can start a car if the battery is just barely incapable of starting on its own.
An actual Jump Pack can start at least a few cars with totally dead batteries and not break a sweat.
Do we own trucks, or do we own Priuses?
Make your choice and go from there, confident in your purchase.
The entire difference between a tiny little lithium purse-carried jump pack and an actual JUMP PACK is that a purse-pack can start a car if the battery is just barely incapable of starting on its own.
An actual Jump Pack can start at least a few cars with totally dead batteries and not break a sweat.
Do we own trucks, or do we own Priuses?
Make your choice and go from there, confident in your purchase.
Wrong, at least when we are talking about the expensive noco packs. Lithium ion is 5x the energy per pound and a third the volume vs lead. That noco 150 is similar to most any heavy pack you’ve used, it’s just Built to be the smallest footprint around a battery pack that’s better technology.
that said, I’m not sold on lithium ion for this application. Convenient but really expensive. When the battery is toast it will be a lot worse to replace. I had the biggest Sears jumper pack for years, and when it crapped out it was easy to crack the case and replace the battery. I’m doubtful it’s that simple with a noco.
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