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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:53 AM
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Exclamation Chrome Wheel defect??

I recently had new tires installed on my 2017 F-250SD. When I came out to look at them I noticed chips of chrome missing from the outer edge of my wheels. This was on every wheel, a couple of them worse than the other two. The shop said Ford has had issue with this and showed me a picture of the inside of my wheels which showed obvious peeling and chipping of the chrome plating inside the wheel. The shop advised me to check on it at the dealership, but that was it. No apology. No, "we'll take care of this", nothing!! Red flags immediately went up with that being the first suggestion from the shop. I'm furious at this point, because I take care of my truck, mechanically and cosmetically. However, it was Christmas Eve and I was headed out of town so I let it go until I got back in town. I'm seeking input from other Ford truck owners with these wheels and if you have experienced the same issue. I'm getting my ducks in a row before going to the dealership. I'm trying to educate myself before I pull the trigger on taking action to get this fixed. Just some additional information I gathered from a reputable shop, modern tire changing machines don't even touch the wheels anymore, but I cannot confirm what type of tire changer the shop that did my tires has. On my list of getting my ducks in a row. Thanks in advance for any similarities anyone can offer.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:55 AM
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its not chrome...

do some searches

​​​​​​https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...one-wheel.html
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rjacobs
its not chrome...

do some searches

​​​​​​https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...one-wheel.html
What are they??? What do I search??
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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The shop said Ford has had issue with this and showed me a picture of the inside of my wheels which showed obvious peeling and chipping of the chrome plating inside the wheel.
So if the tire shop was already cognizant of the issue with "chrome" Ford rims, why didn't they remove/mount the tires from the back side of the rims?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:41 AM
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So if the tire shop was already cognizant of the issue with "chrome" Ford rims, why didn't they remove/mount the tires from the back side of the rims?
It wouldn't matter, the PVD pulls off when the bead gets broken. The PVD coating is nothing like chrome. It's not the shops fault, it's very common and a lot of them start flaking before the first tire change.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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It wouldn't matter, the PVD pulls off when the bead gets broken.
Thanks ... wasn't aware of that. I mount/balance motorcycle tires and use plastic-covered tooling for breaking the beads (No-Mar tire changer).
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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Thanks ... wasn't aware of that. I mount/balance motorcycle tires and use plastic-covered tooling for breaking the beads (No-Mar tire changer).
A buddy of mine and I have changed several sets of tires on PVD wheels and what the OP said about the coating flaking off is exactly accurate. The coating will stick to the tire bead and inside of the tire will be full of little flakes that have come off during normal use. It sucks Ford still uses this process on their wheels but I'm sure other OEM's do as well.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:56 AM
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Thanks ... wasn't aware of that. I mount/balance motorcycle tires and use plastic-covered tooling for breaking the beads (No-Mar tire changer).
It's not a metal to metal contact, it's the rubber peeling away from the rim that pulls the PVD coating off. The PVD is more like a paint than chrome.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cficare
Thanks ... wasn't aware of that. I mount/balance motorcycle tires and use plastic-covered tooling for breaking the beads (No-Mar tire changer).
The PVD sticks to the rubber of the tire from what I understand... so it doesnt matter what tools are used to change tires.

But also if I had $100 for every tire guy who says "my machine wont make a mark on a rim, dont worry" LOL
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 10:05 AM
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From what I see on my truck's wheels, which were replaced once under warranty while the original tires were still mounted, the crappy PVD coating must fall off while the truck is sitting stationary in my driveway.

The black chips bug me too. I bought some Molotow Liquid Chrome paint markers from Amazon and a touch-up bottle of clear coat. That's my fix for this ongoing issue, shy of having the wheels media blasted and powder coated. For anyone who's interested, I bought a set of 3 markers...1, 2 and 4mm tip size. It appears that the 2mm will be the most useful, with the 4mm being next. The 1mm was probably a waste. A card from a set of dollar store playing cards works well to keep the paint off of the tires. The chrome paint does take a while to dry while enough to keep the clear coat from smearing it.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
It wouldn't matter, the PVD pulls off when the bead gets broken. The PVD coating is nothing like chrome. It's not the shops fault, it's very common and a lot of them start flaking before the first tire change.
so this IS a Ford issue??? Are they making good on it? If the coating pops off when you change the tires that BS!!! That’s regular maintenance that has to be done! The dealership put new tires on the truck when I bought it in 2019 and no issues. Sounds like Ford is putting crap wheels on trucks and expecting the owner to live with it!!
 

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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 10:09 AM
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The PVD sticks to the rubber of the tire from what I understand... so it doesnt matter what tools are used to change tires.

But also if I had $100 for every tire guy who says "my machine wont make a mark on a rim, dont worry" LOL
Exactly. I just got new tires and the rears have jaw marks in them now. A-hole dealer said 'Well, they have 40K on them' Trying to get them to resolve but wheel repair around me can't do dually wheels. Probably going to turn in to insurance, fronts are damaged as well, like they took lug nuts off and let the wheel fall on its face.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
A buddy of mine and I have changed several sets of tires on PVD wheels and what the OP said about the coating flaking off is exactly accurate. The coating will stick to the tire bead and inside of the tire will be full of little flakes that have come off during normal use. It sucks Ford still uses this process on their wheels but I'm sure other OEM's do as well.

This is what the inside the wheel looked like
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 10:20 AM
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Never been a fan of chrome, so I chose the machined & painted 20" aluminum wheels for both 2017 & 2022 F250s. Seeing this issue makes me even more glad I went that route. Wish you good luck with getting this problem resolved.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 12:42 PM
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I had new tires installed last year and had no issues with the PVD/Chrome chipping or coming off. But this was also because I made sure the tire shop was aware that the rims were in perfect condition and that I had a brand new wheel because the dealer messed up a wheel when a TPMS was replaced under warranty (dealer ordered a new wheel and I had to return the chipped one).

So as long as a tire and unmounted and remounted and the tech doesn't allow the tools to contact the rim it should be fine. I have had 3 TPM sensors replaced under warranty and also had new tires installed and the rims are still fine. I would suspect that most of the damage to rims is done by poor workmanship when tires are replaced.
 
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