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Old Dec 21, 2021 | 10:29 AM
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Don’t be afraid of a couple of wrecks if they were small. Mine had dented up bumpers from 2 fender benders in Car Fax.
Sorta depends on what you want from the vehicle. If you want a perfect resto find one that has a clean car fax.
I am not scared of dings and paint damage or even 1 accident in the past. The multiple accidents do cause some concern, more so since I wouldn't not be able to ask the details from the owner in this case.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2021 | 10:37 AM
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Yes, that is what got me to make this post
 
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Old Dec 21, 2021 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by unleashd
Here in VA, we do need the 4wd occasionally. So, it is nice to have the ability. Also, I have travel plans taking me far west and up north, when this may become a necessity.

I've had 2 RWD cars in the past - 2001 Mercedes Benz C class and 2009 BMW 750i. Both were awesome cars in the dry months, but absolutely useless in slick/snow/icy conditions. I've had a spin out in both of them. So, after that I decided on having 4wd ability, or at least front wheel drive, on all the vehicles that I would use regularly. My daughter's Prius is more reliable than either of those 2 cars in these road conditions
This is a very bad comparison, you are taking two (and i use this term loosely) sports cars, that purport to be performance vehicles, likely tuned to have maximum throttle response, potentially at the loss of some traction in sketchy weather conditions, and comparing them to a 6000+ lbs truck with a massively different power to weight ratio and weight distribution. Those cars might as well be tennis shoes running in an ice rink in bad weather, someone might chime in with something about their traction control and abs, and all the safety features, but those are just stupid driver training wheels and will not prevent you from having an accident 3/4 of the time, and in my experience, can actually hinder your own ability to prevent an accident in certain circumstances where they try to override and take control. My GT has enough torque and Throttle response to break traction in 3rd gear if i stab it to the floor and the road has even the slightest moisture, its called driving appropriately for the conditions in which you find yourself. RWD vs FWD is all about how you drive the vehicle, if you have the proper experience, practice, etc.

You wouldn't jump into an RWD car and go yanking the E-Brake to drift around a corner like the FWD guys do would you, no instead you throttle up to force the drift.
Just like in a FWD car if you pull a hard corner at high speed you don't slam the gas during the turn because if you break traction you are no longer turning and go face first into the wall.

If you find FWD vehicles to be much safer, more reliable, etc, its your driving habits and experience that is the reason for that, and while 4WD helps in all those cases, it is not a cure all, if your driving habits are bad, you can get into just as much trouble in 4WD, or possibly more, than you did with FWD or RWD, becaue 4wd will give you that false sense of security that its next to impossible for you to get stuck, leading you to do even more brazen, fool hearty maneuvers.

Yet, how many videos on youtube are there of big men with big 4WDs getting towed out by their buddies after they proved to everyone, their driving experience and habits are severely lacking.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2021 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterX
This is a very bad comparison, you are taking two (and i use this term loosely) sports cars, that purport to be performance vehicles, likely tuned to have maximum throttle response, potentially at the loss of some traction in sketchy weather conditions, and comparing them to a 6000+ lbs truck with a massively different power to weight ratio and weight distribution. Those cars might as well be tennis shoes running in an ice rink in bad weather, someone might chime in with something about their traction control and abs, and all the safety features, but those are just stupid driver training wheels and will not prevent you from having an accident 3/4 of the time, and in my experience, can actually hinder your own ability to prevent an accident in certain circumstances where they try to override and take control. My GT has enough torque and Throttle response to break traction in 3rd gear if i stab it to the floor and the road has even the slightest moisture, its called driving appropriately for the conditions in which you find yourself. RWD vs FWD is all about how you drive the vehicle, if you have the proper experience, practice, etc.

You wouldn't jump into an RWD car and go yanking the E-Brake to drift around a corner like the FWD guys do would you, no instead you throttle up to force the drift.
Just like in a FWD car if you pull a hard corner at high speed you don't slam the gas during the turn because if you break traction you are no longer turning and go face first into the wall.

If you find FWD vehicles to be much safer, more reliable, etc, its your driving habits and experience that is the reason for that, and while 4WD helps in all those cases, it is not a cure all, if your driving habits are bad, you can get into just as much trouble in 4WD, or possibly more, than you did with FWD or RWD, becaue 4wd will give you that false sense of security that its next to impossible for you to get stuck, leading you to do even more brazen, fool hearty maneuvers.

Yet, how many videos on youtube are there of big men with big 4WDs getting towed out by their buddies after they proved to everyone, their driving experience and habits are severely lacking.
Point taken and complete agree with you on these. This may very well be my driving habits/ability. I am not in anyways saying that a 2WD EX is bad. I am not saying that the 4WD EX is the best at driving in slick conditions either. I have seen them slide as well. It is more peace of mind for me and one of my requirements in this potential new purchase.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2021 | 04:02 PM
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having been the guy who has had to pull people out of their mistakes before....

One of the things I have is 20 ft of 1/2 inch tow chain in the back of my Ex at all times, you might want to do the same, I put it in there for two reasons.

1. You never know when you need to tow/pull/drag something out of the way, out of the mud, or a ditch, or out of danger, or back to civilization.
2. Just because you find someone to pull you out, doesn't mean they brought chains with them, Your own chains can be used just as easily to rescue you, as someone else, hehe.

I have never had to be rescued yet tho due to getting stuck, just once when my fuel pump failed on a mercury, and once when an alternator shorted and cooked the battery too, also on that same mercury, XD
the first time i wasnt far from home and a relative pulled me home, the second time we ended up towing that Piece of Junk 35 miles, glad its gone.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2021 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterX
having been the guy who has had to pull people out of their mistakes before....

One of the things I have is 20 ft of 1/2 inch tow chain in the back of my Ex at all times, you might want to do the same, I put it in there for two reasons.

1. You never know when you need to tow/pull/drag something out of the way, out of the mud, or a ditch, or out of danger, or back to civilization.
2. Just because you find someone to pull you out, doesn't mean they brought chains with them, Your own chains can be used just as easily to rescue you, as someone else, hehe.
Good pointers. I have all sorts of tools and other rescue accessories stashed away in my truck at all times.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2021 | 12:44 PM
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Have you seen this one in the DC area? 2004 Eddie Bauer 118,000 V10, says garaged for $22,000.

Exceptional Excursion - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle... (craigslist.org)
 
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Old Dec 22, 2021 | 12:45 PM
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Wow thats a cream puff! Somebody gave that thing some love!
 
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Have you seen this one in the DC area? 2004 Eddie Bauer 118,000 V10, says garaged for $22,000.

Exceptional Excursion - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle... (craigslist.org)
Good find. Will check it out.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2021 | 01:36 PM
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Why not a diesel?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2021 | 11:30 PM
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Because then he really will have to pay the crazy excursion prices price.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chainfire
Why not a diesel?
I have owned 2 7.3 diesel excursions in the past. I bought both of my previous trucks knowing fully, that for my needs, I really do not need a diesel. I would love to buy a 6.0 Excursion. From my research so far, it is a ticking time bomb. But then this could be for any vehicle.

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Because then he really will have to pay the crazy excursion prices price.
This quote works for any and all used vehicle on the market right now.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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There is a reason people call them 6.NO's, unless you have lots of money and time, or find one that has already been bulletproofed, they are time bombs.

A friend of mine had a F250 6.NO and after the 3rd turbo replacement, and a laundry list of other replacements, he got tired of spending money on it and sold it, only had like 130k on it too, its someone else's problem now.

7.3's seem to be everything the 6.0 was supposed to be, efficient, reliable, solid, just without the extra power.

Fast, Reliable, Cheap, you can only pick two out of three.

Ill stick to my V10, I have basically done the equivalent of a bulletproofing job on it, and so far, it has been perfect.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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There is a reason people call them 6.NO's, unless you have lots of money and time, or find one that has already been bulletproofed, they are time bombs.

A friend of mine had a F250 6.NO and after the 3rd turbo replacement, and a laundry list of other replacements, he got tired of spending money on it and sold it, only had like 130k on it too, its someone else's problem now.

7.3's seem to be everything the 6.0 was supposed to be, efficient, reliable, solid, just without the extra power.

Fast, Reliable, Cheap, you can only pick two out of three.

Ill stick to my V10, I have basically done the equivalent of a bulletproofing job on it, and so far, it has been perfect.
200% agree with this. As I said earlier, I've had the 7.3 and loved them both. I panicked and sold the first one. I had other interests and sold the second one to a good friend and now I am kicking myself for that. I certainly do not not want to inherit somebody else's 6.No problems. Hence the search for a 6.8. But, who knows, I may get another 7.3
 
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Old Dec 27, 2021 | 11:49 AM
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There is always the super option
V-10 Excursion Six Door For Sale!
 
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