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I would probably make getting the truck away from those folks a priority.
^^^This...
Many years ago I took my truck to an "expert diesel transmission mechanic" to diagnose what I suspected was clutch chatter. This is a small shop where the owner was the expert and he had one or two people that worked with him. Long story short, I appeared to know more about the transmission issue that I was experiencing than he did as I took him on a test drive to show him the symptoms. Things like "I have never heard of this before" and "it could be the springs on the flywheel" cued me in that something was amiss.
Against my better judgement I left it with him. I immediately came here and told the community about my gut feeling that something was not right and a few points of concern I had based on our conversation. They told me to "GET THE TRUCK AWAY FROM THERE ASAP". I was at the shop when he opened up the next morning at 8:00 AM and told him I was taking the truck. He had a couple dozen trucks in the lot needing his attention anyway, so I don't think he was upset.
We live and learn.
That is how I was connected with SkySkiJason (long time FTE'r here). My family has become close friends with his family since we only live 2 hours apart. Family gatherings like birthdays and dinner are a pleasant time spent together with a friend that was made just by happenstance.
Since removing my truck from the "expert" shop, I found out a local 7.3L owner friend of mine has a 4R100 that was rebuilt there 2 years ago and is now having trouble shifting through the gears. This truck is used locally for his business to tow around a dump trailer and 12' covered trailer as he is a contractor.
If you are able and feel you can resolve the issues yourself with the help of the FTE community, by all means go get your truck ASAP! If your gut feeling is to let it be and fight with them until they get it going again, we will respect that decision. We really hate to see people get screwed over or taken advantage of.
Perhaps, if you are comfortable with sharing your rough location, an FTE'r might be local to you and could lend a hand in person. It has happened many times and I have been a recipient of the kindness and generosity of this community in the past. There have been rescue missions, traveling to help the stranded, parts sent out to those in need, etc...
We are here to help you, but we need to know what your comfort level is in regards to diagnosing, working on and resolving the issues you are facing.
I am very comfortable with sharing my location also using a scanning tool to try to diagnose an issue with the 7.3. I have been a "shadetree" for a long time. I am going to take ya'll advice and go get my truck from that shop today and run some scans to get the codes and share what I find withyou giuys. Thank you guys for yourr support and very much appreciated generosity.
Ok I went to the shop to get my truck. I had a hide-a-key on the frame rail so I got under the truck to retrieve the key. I got up and just for giggles I grabbed the door handle and it opened!!! It wasn't even locked and worse tham that the key was in the ignition!!!!!!! Anyway at idle and operating temp I have 500psi on the ICP and IPR 12.8% IPW 2.8ms. Idleing at 650rpm. Am I in the right parameters? The GPR I believe is working because there is a wire looking light that comes on with the key that I let go out before I try to start.
Well, maybe they were hoping it would get stolen and insurance would solve their problem for them. What a shame it came down to you having that experience.
Your parameters appear to be right about where they should be. Below is a snip from a "good running condition" FORScan Lite screenshot I have on file.
Your IPR% seems a little high, but nothing to be alarmed about especially if your EOT was a bit lower than "full operating temperature". See image below.
The light that looks like a wire in the instrument cluster is your "wait to start or glow plug" light. Although, it has nothing to do with the actual function of the glow plugs or the glow plug relay. They are independent of each other and if the glow plug light doesn't illuminate, that is a good indication the PCM does not have power.
I don't know what the temperature was when you started the truck, but the GPR appears to be working OK. Check your oil level and let us know what happens going forward. Perhaps you had a lot of air in the HPO system and it just needed to work it's way out.
That is the best case scenario and what we are all hoping for.
48 miles per quart of oil is about normal for a pink o ring being blown on an injector.
the pink o ring separates oil and fuel
with it at operating temperature with a blown o ring there will be a haze in the exhaust while idling and a distinct smell
So, how long will it take for them to call you to let you know the truck was “stolen”? It sounds like you picked it up without their knowledge so they should kinda freak out when them come back to the shop. Might want to give them a call before they call the police though.
Like Sous said, the GPR light doesn’t indicate it’s actually working. A quick check can be a test light on the inner large post when you key on. They’re are more technical ways to check it but it’s over my head and this should give you a hint anyhow.
So, how long will it take for them to call you to let you know the truck was “stolen”? It sounds like you picked it up without their knowledge so they should kinda freak out when them come back to the shop. Might want to give them a call before they call the police though.
Like Sous said, the GPR light doesn’t indicate it’s actually working. A quick check can be a test light on the inner large post when you key on. They’re are more technical ways to check it but it’s over my head and this should give you a hint anyhow.
They’re probably looking to steal an identical looking truck themselves to hide their screwup. Kinda like ******* Föcker and Jinxie.
I agree with you all, I think I'll just let it play out and see what happens. The truck started faster when I "stole" it so hopefully it just had a lot of air in the HPO system like mentioned by ya'll. The temp outside was about 63 degrees when I picked it up today so pretty warm. I think I'm going to wait for the owner to call me to tell him I want my money back for the "service" that they didn't do and I will keep posting to you guys if that's okay.
Your TPS (throttle position sensor) may be faulty. Now that you mention that, I believe the IVS (idle validation switch) can cause stalling if it is going bad.
There are a few videos out there about how to clean or check these. You can also bring them up on FORScan to see what the PCM is seeing too.
Do you have a tuner chip by chance? If so, perhaps the chip is set to "no throttle" or something similar. There is at least one tuner company that offers that as a security feature.
being that the engine ran out of oil and air was introduced in to the high pressure oil system I would make sure the oil is exactly on the max line, at least 1/2 tank of fuel then I would drive 50 miles away on a major highway, turn around and drive home. park the truck in the exact same spot and check the oil. then see if any of the other problems still exist.
ps. if the oil is 1 to 2 quarts low you have an o ring that has failed ( the pink o ring) or a turbo seal that has failed (the turbo seal failure will leave a white cloud of smoke)
Had this same issue when I had a blown injector o ring. Truck just started running crappy and then it just died, turned out to be about 9 or 10 quarts low on oil. Keep a close watch on oil consumption as the truck can use the oil pretty quickly. Best of luck, hope you get it sorted out soon
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