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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Well now this is getting interesting! I used to own a 74 bronco. While it was a way cool vehicle, for strength and durability it doesn't hold a candle to my Toyota Landcruiser FJ40. I bought my cruiser after working in South America as a youngin doing oil exploration. We took down a whole fleet of Chevy's. 3/4 tons to 5 tons all rigged up. Well after 5 months every one of them had a bent frame. The locals laughed at us. They all drove landcruisers and believe it or not, old suzuki samuri type rigs with motorcycle engines. They were the only rigs that could survive the Amazon. That was enough convincing for me. When I got home I bought my FJ and have never regretted it.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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true 4 wheel drive would be any thing you could find with a new process model 203 t/c in it. like a 74 chevy 1/2 ton. the way to tell if its true is to look and see if it has 5 position stickI.E. 4L lock, 4L N, 4 hi, 4 hi lock. the lock indicates the t/c has been locked to put 50/50 power to both front and rear.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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The 203 in "lock" would throw 50/50 front to rear just like any other transfer case. The issue here is 50/50 split left to right. A "standard" 4x4 with open diffs is really a 4x2 opposed drive, one wheel pulls up front, one pushes out back. Throw lockers in front and rear THEN you truly have a 4X4.

The scout my old man had HAD to have a twin stick T-case. it was fully locking front and rear so if you wanted to pull a tight turn or go over some rocks and not have the wheel ripped out of your hand you could slip the front axle out of drive and the rear axle would stay in what ever range you were in before. after pulling the sharp turn or avoiding the obstacle and straightening back out you then slipped the stick back to re-engage the front axle. The other part of this is that if you blew a rear axle or differential, you could slip the rear axle out of drive and drive home on the front axle. That there was a serious truck.

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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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The 203 in "lock" would throw 50/50 front to rear just like any other transfer case. The issue here is 50/50 split left to right. A "standard" 4x4 with open diffs is really a 4x2 opposed drive, one wheel pulls up front, one pushes out back. Throw lockers in front and rear THEN you truly have a 4X4.

The scout my old man had HAD to have a twin stick T-case. it was fully locking front and rear so if you wanted to pull a tight turn or go over some rocks and not have the wheel ripped out of your hand you could slip the front axle out of drive and the rear axle would stay in what ever range you were in before. after pulling the sharp turn or avoiding the obstacle and straightening back out you then slipped the stick back to re-engage the front axle. The other part of this is that if you blew a rear axle or differential, you could slip the rear axle out of drive and drive home on the front axle. That there was a serious truck.

Justin
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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Those mercades unimogs are a preety nuts truck(if you could really call it a truck more of a super heavy duty 4by). One of my friends pulled the front diffs out of a couple to put in his toyota hilux and they weigh just under 400kg's(880pounds) each(although it does have cab selected 4 wheel steer, twin transfer's, twin turbocharged 5L v8, 68inch hydraullic operated coil over shocks,& 48" swamp tyres, and street registered!! the best damn hilux i've ever seen.).

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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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I've seen one of those unimogs. Talk about overkill, they make a Humvee look like an Escape. sure, they can both do the same kind of stuff off road but can the humvee do it towing a semi trailer? didn't think so. . . . With the unimog you also don't have to worry about finding a parking space, you can push over trees, statues, concrete barriers, trash trucks, anything.

I'd forgotten about it, but thinking about one again it comes back to me. . . I WANT ONE!!!

You can actually get them pretty cheap as retired military vehicles out of europe, but then you have to ship it back to where ever you live


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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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How I forgot about the Mogs is beyond me. A guy out here runs one, and for a stocker, they are by far the schinizzle. They outmud many of the built rigs, for that matter. Who woulda though mercedes could build such a cool rig!?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 02:42 AM
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I once had a video clip of a unimog in iceland doing approx 40-50kph into a 12foot snow drift, preety hillarious actually as it dissapered for a sec then came out the outherside.

Aaron,
 
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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True four wheel drive is easy all you need is a 203 transfer case and locking differentials. My choice is the ARB air lockers one in each differential the advantage is that you can disengage them for street driving and engage them for off road driving. Another advantage is that you can engage the front and disengage the rear to help pull the vehicle around a tight corner.when off roading.

As to what the best vehicle is to put those in That is easy. Run what ya brung!! type doesn't matter as long as it is covered in mud and you are smiling.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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SO basicly all you are looking for is a rig with factory locking diffs front and rear??

Any 4x4 can do that with the use of some 7018 rod.... Or just spend some moneyand put lockers in it..

I fail to see why everyone is mentioning the NP203 case.. You all do know the lock positions are just to lock the CENTER diff, and has nothing to do with the diffs in the axles, right?

And yes, some scouts used a eaton locker in the rea, possibly the front. Also old GMC's with the eaton 10 bolt often had a locker in the rear, and usualy 5.13 or 5.38 gears.

hell, my litle broncoII has true four wheel drive, all it took was some was a few hours, and some 10018 rod.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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Lincoln lockers are the cheapest way to go. That if you stay off the pavement so the tires won't wear out so fast.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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I got an unrestored, stock(except tires) 1953 ****** army jeep. I have been driving it around for a few years. It has open diffs, but I only got it stuck once, and that was in mud that I got stuck walking in. I also about tore someones car in half pulling them out of a ditch
 
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