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We have been thinking about getting a camper for a long time. I am trying to figure out the weight of these campers as they seem way too much.
I currently have a 2012 F-350 Lariat, Crew cab, FX4x4, Camper package, 6.7 Diesel, SRW long bed
I am confused as the cert paper says 2,700, but looking on the payload ratings for an F-350 SRW 4x4 they range from 3,130 up to 4,230
I was planning to replace the sway bars and add airbags. Not sure If I need to look into getting a DRW or not? I like that the truck is paid for and has only 93k miles on it. It is also easier to park and half the price on wheels. I just don't want to invest in the 2012 if I should really move to a DRW.
AF campers are super heavy and the ones Lance says can be carried by an f-350 SRW seems too heavy. I don't want to trust a dealer saying "Oh yeah you will be fine"
Check out this website. He has a more accurate representation of weights when compared with the manufacturers. Just be aware these camper weights add up quick. Happy shopping.
If you intend to go with a big camper or one with slides, I would suggest making your life simple and just go with a dually out of the gate. Duallies solve so many (not all) of the weight issues. For payload ratings and what they mean there are folks here who will walk you through it. Start with the sicker on your door pillar.
Oops almost forgot. Congrats on doing your research before buying!!!!!!!!!
Agree with RV Tech, if you want a slide, you need a dually. I have 2020 F350 SC, 6.2 gas SRW and carry a 2020 AF 865. Mildly loaded I am at 11,200, under the GVWR by 100 pounds. I did change the tires to Coopers with a 4080# load rating. It can be done, but you need to do the math.
A DRW would certainly give you more options and is all but required if you want to get into the bigger campers. It is very doable with your SRW if you want to stay in the smaller campers and limit your options.
You also have to take into account whether you will or won't be wanting to tow and how much tongue weight and gross weight of the towed items..
Originally Posted by 0811redleg
Hi All,
We have been thinking about getting a camper for a long time. I am trying to figure out the weight of these campers as they seem way too much.
I currently have a 2012 F-350 Lariat, Crew cab, FX4x4, Camper package, 6.7 Diesel, SRW long bed I am confused as the cert paper says 2,700, but looking on the payload ratings for an F-350 SRW 4x4 they range from 3,130 up to 4,230
I was planning to replace the sway bars and add airbags. Not sure If I need to look into getting a DRW or not? I like that the truck is paid for and has only 93k miles on it. It is also easier to park and half the price on wheels. I just don't want to invest in the 2012 if I should really move to a DRW. Ford_Linc_12RVTTowGuide.pdf See page 12 for per seat weight explanation.
AF campers are super heavy and the ones Lance says can be carried by an f-350 SRW seems too heavy. I don't want to trust a dealer saying "Oh yeah you will be fine"
Thanks
Martin
Look at the tag on your pillar and see what it says. Fill your fuel tank to the max and then get weighed with the full tanks. You'll start to get the idea of what you have to play with as far as weight.
Ford figures 150#'s for each seat, so if you have 6 seating positions, 900 lbs. of the 4368 in the example above is people weight. If 2 seats are all that are occupied, then that 4368 is actually 4968. Ford_Linc_12RVTTowGuide.pdf
See page 12 for the 150# explanation.
Ford figures 150#'s for each seat, so if you have 6 seating positions, 900 lbs. of the 4368 in the example above is people wait. If 2 seats are all that are occupied, then that 4368 is actually 4968. Ford_Linc_12RVTTowGuide.pdf
See page 12 for the 150# explanation.
The above information is true. Here is a direct cut/paste from the 2012 Towing Guide that Jim linked to.
Cargo Weight Rating shown in chart is maximum allowable, assuming weight of a base vehicle with required camper option content and a 150-lb. passenger at each available seating position.
However, that quote is from the Slide-In Camper section. If you look at what Ford has to say about payload in the Towing sections, it's a different story.
Base Curb Weight is the weight of the vehicle including a full tank of fuel and all standard equipment. It does not include passengers, cargo or any optional equipment. Cargo Weight includes all weight added to the Base Curb Weight, including cargo and optional equipment (check with your sales consultant). When towing, trailer tongue load or king pin weight is also part of the Cargo Weight. Payload is the combined maximum allowable weight of cargo and passengers that the truck is designed to carry. It is the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating minus the Base Curb Weight.
The underline was added for emphasis by me. My take on this is that the payload weight (aka payload to most of us) on the truck's sticker could be higher or lower than what is listed in the Slide-In Camper section. If you have a fully optioned truck, it will weigh much more than a base model so the sticker payload number could be lower than what is in the towing guide. If you do have a base model truck then the sticker payload should be much higher than what is in the towing guide. Add up the number of seating positions and it might account for the discrepancy. I think I got that right, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee.
The cargo weight number in the Towing Guide is a very optimistic number that most of us would never see. I always recommend that people go by the sticker payload as that is the easiest number to use. CAT Scale numbers being the absolute best one to use.
Thank you for your responses I've only kind of read it on my phone. I haven't had a chance to actually read it on my computer where I can fully digest what everyone has said. I just wanted to respond to say thank you.
Seabiscuit, that is what I forgot to say. One of the whole reasons I want a slide in camper is to tow the trailer with a classic bronco. I figure 2k for the flat bed trailer (tube frame) and estimating hi 5k for the classic bronco.
Seabiscuit, that is what I forgot to say. One of the whole reasons I want a slide in camper is to tow the trailer with a classic bronco. I figure 2k for the flat bed trailer (tube frame) and estimating hi 5k for the classic bronco.
The tongue weight will reduce your payload. Estimated tongue weight is around 700 lbs. You may be running out of payload.
Like Jim said, the tongue weight goes against your Gross Vehicle Weight. The gross trailer weight goes against your GCVWR= Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating.
Ok I have read all of these and more and the math just doesn't add up in my head. I must just be missing something.
door frame doesn't say max cargo rating, but does say GVWR 11,500. I looked at the sheet again and it says max cargo is 2,268. If you do a little math 11,500 - 2,268 = 9,232 the truck doesn't weigh 9k the curb weight of the truck is 7,017 (that is also going with the heaviest one listed. Next highest one is 6,637) , so shouldn't my cargo be 4,483 - cargo, tongue weight, etc? or even 1k less than that.
Front GAWR is 6,000
Rear GAWR is 7,000
I am sorry if I am being dense. I followed the link to the Ford_linc towing guide and it looks like it shows 2,880 / 1,488, which is still above what the cargo sheet says. I also thought the camper package was supposed to bump up the carrying capacity, but I am not sure that is the case.
Thanks, yeah I was looking at the wrong sticker. Stupid thing is I know I have seen that sticker before. I just needed to look down farther. It says 3,115. I am still baffled why the printed sheet is off by so much much, must have been a typo.
It blows my mind that Lance says for a SRW 1 ton LB you can carry the 850 (WW 2,835), 960 (Dry 2,970 WW TBD, about 3,200), 975 (WW 3,962), 1062 (WW 4073). Not sold on Lance, but was looking at them and Artic. Artics are pretty heavy themselves.
Out of these I can only carry 850, giving not much room if I am going to tow. The trailer is a tandem axle and I can adjust the tongue weight some what by moving the classic bronco forward or back.
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. It says 3,115. I am still baffled why the printed sheet is off by so much much, must have been a typo.