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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 11:58 AM
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7.3 fan conversion too cool?

Is it possible that the 7.3 conversion can make my truck run too cool? It won’t get above 192 at idle. I did the conversion because I wanted to see if it would help the AC cool better but I’m seeing the same vent temps as I was with the electric clutch.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 12:20 PM
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Our thermostats are 192* rated to open. Looks like your idle temp is perfect. Did you mean to type 192?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Brotherbillstruck
Our thermostats are 192* rated to open. Looks like your idle temp is perfect. Did you mean to type 192?
yes 192. I was told in another post somewhere that my idle temp should be a tad higher like 194, I even think I saw that stamped on the thermostat.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 02:09 PM
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yes 192. I was told in another post somewhere that my idle temp should be a tad higher like 194, I even think I saw that stamped on the thermostat.
Gotcha. I wouldn’t be concerned a few degrees either way. The thermostat is mechanical and manufactured with varying degrees of quality and materials. 192 is good. Next time you might hit 194.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 02:24 PM
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With the differences in tolerances with the sensors and the thermostats both materials and age you are in the right area for that temp. I do not know what the fail specification on the sensors are but I would expect if you are within a couple degrees you are good to go especially if your cold checks are that close.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 02:40 PM
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The one downside I've always seen with the 7.3 fan is the ability to engage the fan based off AC pressures. The stock fan will be engaged at full speed by the PCM in conjunction with the AC high pressure switch, regardless of ECT temps. I don't have personal experience with how this works in reality with the 7.3 clutch but I would think the stock fan clutch would provide better AC performance than the 7.3.

The main reason people go to the 7.3 is that it engages sooner than the stock clutch and thus keeps ECT temps lower when towing, and it's also mechanical so if you've got wiring issues, EGR valve unplugged, etc you don't have to worry about it.
 
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The one downside I've always seen with the 7.3 fan is the ability to engage the fan based off AC pressures. The stock fan will be engaged at full speed by the PCM in conjunction with the AC high pressure switch, regardless of ECT temps. I don't have personal experience with how this works in reality with the 7.3 clutch but I would think the stock fan clutch would provide better AC performance than the 7.3.

The main reason people go to the 7.3 is that it engages sooner than the stock clutch and thus keeps ECT temps lower when towing, and it's also mechanical so if you've got wiring issues, EGR valve unplugged, etc you don't have to worry about it.
my electric fan didn’t seem to be operating properly. Then the ac was on the fan speed stayed the same. Only once in a while would it actually speed up and when it did it was brief and would fall face to 300rpm or less. With the ac on in 100 degree weather.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Brotherbillstruck
Gotcha. I wouldn’t be concerned a few degrees either way. The thermostat is mechanical and manufactured with varying degrees of quality and materials. 192 is good. Next time you might hit 194.
i guess my concern was the truck sewing 192 and adding fuel in an Attempt to get up to operating temperature.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 04:06 PM
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i guess my concern was the truck sewing 192 and adding fuel in an Attempt to get up to operating temperature.
Agree with not wanting to be too cool. I think at over 190* you are good.
 
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Originally Posted by jav_eee
my electric fan didn’t seem to be operating properly. Then the ac was on the fan speed stayed the same. Only once in a while would it actually speed up and when it did it was brief and would fall face to 300rpm or less. With the ac on in 100 degree weather.
Could be a variety of things. Bad clutch, bad wiring, EGR valve unplugged or deleted.

When locked up the fan runs around 850rpm at idle (above engine speed).
 
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Originally Posted by FiveOJester
Could be a variety of things. Bad clutch, bad wiring, EGR valve unplugged or deleted.

When locked up the fan runs around 850rpm at idle (above engine speed).
it’ll occasionally lock up to that speed but doesn’t always stay at it even with the ac on. EGR valve is plugged in.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jav_eee
i guess my concern was the truck sewing 192 and adding fuel in an Attempt to get up to operating temperature.
The PCM looks for 186°f, and considers that for a minimum of a warmed up engine. Many tests done on IDS will not let you run them unless the coolant temp is at or above that.
Your at idle temp is fine.
 
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