Squat with Camper
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Check out Timbren SES for the rear (if the truck already has the snowplow prep package). I added the 12,000lb jounce "springs" - very easy install. I do a bit of back road/dirt road TC'ing with an F450/AF1150 rig and they seem to help quite a bit under those conditions
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Will do. Thanks!
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I had many similar questions before we put our setup together. Bottom line: We put upper stableload and it has leveled it out.
I have a 2022 F350 CCLB 7.3L with 3.73 gears. Went back and forth on popup (Hallmark/Outfitter) or hard side (Northern Lite/Bigfoot) and finally decided on a used Hallmark Cuchara. So our setup is a little heavier due to the bath setup but we have only dry camped so far. The weight of the camper is not an issue really as it actually really smoothed out the ride. It did sag the rear about 3 inches which put the rear about an inch lower than the front. We only had the rear of the upper overload engaged so it wasnt overly heavy.
For me the issue was headlight alignment and getting flashed or having to adjust headlights after putting camper on or off. I put the upper stableload on and it brought the camper to level. Front and rear are within 1/4 inch for ride height depending on how we are loaded. It did bring a little stiffness back to the ride when the camper is empty but once loaded for a trip it is smooth again.
We do lots of winter ski camping and wanted to avoid airbags as well. The stableload are easy and are zero maintenance as well as not engaged when unloaded.
I have a 2022 F350 CCLB 7.3L with 3.73 gears. Went back and forth on popup (Hallmark/Outfitter) or hard side (Northern Lite/Bigfoot) and finally decided on a used Hallmark Cuchara. So our setup is a little heavier due to the bath setup but we have only dry camped so far. The weight of the camper is not an issue really as it actually really smoothed out the ride. It did sag the rear about 3 inches which put the rear about an inch lower than the front. We only had the rear of the upper overload engaged so it wasnt overly heavy.
For me the issue was headlight alignment and getting flashed or having to adjust headlights after putting camper on or off. I put the upper stableload on and it brought the camper to level. Front and rear are within 1/4 inch for ride height depending on how we are loaded. It did bring a little stiffness back to the ride when the camper is empty but once loaded for a trip it is smooth again.
We do lots of winter ski camping and wanted to avoid airbags as well. The stableload are easy and are zero maintenance as well as not engaged when unloaded.
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Fortunately, the scales in Oregon are free. We weigh regularly, and have a similar tire chart to choose the pressures we want.
I’m not an airbag fan either, for lots of reasons, not the least of which is that we use our rig in the winter a lot. The water can damage them unless you make the system even more complex to dry them.
The camper manufacturer recommends Stableloads. In addition to squat, we want off-road performance. We’ll just have to see how it performs and adjust from there.
Thanks!
I’m not an airbag fan either, for lots of reasons, not the least of which is that we use our rig in the winter a lot. The water can damage them unless you make the system even more complex to dry them.
The camper manufacturer recommends Stableloads. In addition to squat, we want off-road performance. We’ll just have to see how it performs and adjust from there.
Thanks!
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I know I am late to this discussion but would like to see how things went, and ask a couple questions.
Curious why you ordered a pickup and not a chassis cab,
What manufacturer is building / built your flatbed and how did that work out?
where does the grey water from the sink leave the camper and how do you collect the water?
Would appreciate any info you can share, I am doing a similar build.
Curious why you ordered a pickup and not a chassis cab,
What manufacturer is building / built your flatbed and how did that work out?
where does the grey water from the sink leave the camper and how do you collect the water?
Would appreciate any info you can share, I am doing a similar build.
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I know I am late to this discussion but would like to see how things went, and ask a couple questions.
Curious why you ordered a pickup and not a chassis cab,
What manufacturer is building / built your flatbed and how did that work out?
where does the grey water from the sink leave the camper and how do you collect the water?
Would appreciate any info you can share, I am doing a similar build.
Curious why you ordered a pickup and not a chassis cab,
What manufacturer is building / built your flatbed and how did that work out?
where does the grey water from the sink leave the camper and how do you collect the water?
Would appreciate any info you can share, I am doing a similar build.
I looked at chassis cab for years, every time I went to buy a Superduty I gave it thought. It all came down to USE! My truck is a working truck, its my company truck also and a CC brings with it a lot of issues that are solved with having a bed box. For me the box makes far more sense, don't need to spend hours lashing things down, the 8ft box holds a lot and I fill it.
Grey water: On my Host Mammoth the grey water is a separate hose from the black and both outlets are on the driver's side rear near the corner.
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Chassis cabs have more (and shorter) springs to better handle heavy service bodies/beds. Pickups have fewer (and longer) springs for a better ride.
This translates to better load handling of chassis cab, at the expense of a much rougher ride if lightly loaded.
Chassis cabs are a better option than pickup for heavy service bodies or flatbeds due to heavier frames and springs, flat frame rails and simplified 12V wiring at rear.
This translates to better load handling of chassis cab, at the expense of a much rougher ride if lightly loaded.
Chassis cabs are a better option than pickup for heavy service bodies or flatbeds due to heavier frames and springs, flat frame rails and simplified 12V wiring at rear.
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Chassis cabs have more (and shorter) springs to better handle heavy service bodies/beds. Pickups have fewer (and longer) springs for a better ride.
This translates to better load handling of chassis cab, at the expense of a much rougher ride if lightly loaded.
Chassis cabs are a better option than pickup for heavy service bodies or flatbeds due to heavier frames and springs, flat frame rails and simplified 12V wiring at rear.
This translates to better load handling of chassis cab, at the expense of a much rougher ride if lightly loaded.
Chassis cabs are a better option than pickup for heavy service bodies or flatbeds due to heavier frames and springs, flat frame rails and simplified 12V wiring at rear.
I ordered a 2016 Dually w/o a bed for this reason & added an 8.5 ft flat bed.
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