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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 05:16 PM
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PCM issues

'96 F150 4.9L manual trans 2wd

I'm having difficulty finding the correct PCM for my truck.

The part number on my old one that fried the circuit board is F6TZ-12A650-BC.

Using this part number, I have tried 2 different vendors replacement PCM's and none so far have activated the fuel pump relay.

My calibration code is 6-51H-R06.

All of the supporting hardware is functioning because when the fuel pump relay is manually activated, the engine runs.

However it will not run with the SPOUT connector plugged in.

Can anyone help me find either the problem or the correct PCM?

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-Jack (no fuel or spark in Central Texas)
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 05:19 PM
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I have a 6cyl manual on pcm on my shelf.
what is the 4 digit code you have?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 05:22 PM
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Where do I find the 4-digit code?

And thanks for your quick reply.

-Jack
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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CARDONE 786398 PCM is the one you need. rockauto, oreilly's, both say they have them, may be who your using.
On your PCM, check where circled, below this one happens to be LAW0

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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 07:18 PM
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No code on my old one.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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the HIX2 is yours
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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HIX2 it is then!

Thanks very much.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 08:00 PM
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That's exactly the one I bought. CARDONE786398 PCM is the one you need.

It wouldn't activate the fuel pump relay.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 09:43 AM
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I have a HIX2 here that I was sorta holding onto in case I decide to go to OBD2 one day. But I'm guessing you have some issue other than a bad PCM.

Your indicated symptoms are a bit of an odd mix in that you can start the truck by shorting around the FP relay, yet you don't get fuel or spark with the SPOUT removed? That just doesn't add up to me.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 10:18 AM
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Just to clarify my issues, I have no fuel pump activation regardless of the SPOUT connector. The engine only runs when the fuel pump relay is manually grounded

And, I only have spark when the SPOUT connector is not present. There is no spark with the SPOUT connector plugged in.

The crank (or cam?) position sensor is a new one, as is the ignition control module and the distributor.

I'm going to O'Reilly's today to pick up yet another Cardone PCM.

I really need a breakthrough here. Can anyone please help?

ADVthanksANCE

-Jack (needs his truck to run in Central Texas)
 
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 10:51 AM
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You have a bad PCM.
I hope you get a good one.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 11:01 AM
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<<You have a bad PCM.>>
That's what we have been thinking, but the one I'm going to pick up today is the 4th one.


<<I hope you get a good one.>>
I do too.

Is this sort of problem with getting a "good" PCM common?

 
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I've never had a 'bad' PCM, so no, not common.

You are going to have to do some massive testing on you wiring harness.
You might have bad wiring, causing a malfunction with the PCM.

In other words, you may be getting "good" PCMs, and your wiring in the truck is bad.
You'll have to verify that the PCMs are still "good" after you plug them into your truck.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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Disregard my post #11 above.
I did not realize that you have an OBD II system and I was thinking about an OBD I system.
My guess is that you are missing an input to the PCM and that is why it is not grounding the Fuel Pump relay and allowing the ICM to fire the coil.
Have you ran the codes?
They may tell you what is wrong with the PCM inputs.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
I've never had a 'bad' PCM, so no, not common.
I disagree. These PCM's are now 25-35 years old and the capacitors are very prone to leakage/failure at that age. I've seen it several times. In fact, I just experienced it again a couple days ago - this time it was even a "sold-as-rebuilt" PCM (although the capacitors looked original to me).

That said, it seems very unlikely that you've got 3 bad rebuilt PCM's in a row. Definitely pull codes - it's even easier with OBD2 (universal scanners) and probably gives you better data than OBD1.
 
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