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Old Oct 4, 2021 | 05:35 PM
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Building my 400 from scratch

I recently started a thread, "Looking for a 400 Crank". I am going to build a 400 short block from scratch.

Well... I found a crank freshly machined 20/20. I paid $400, the machine shop also has a stack of M blocks a few of which are standard bore and built after late 77. They are ready to be machined for the customer. So I have the crank, block and rods for my build. I have the cam and intake ready to go. It is a Comp Cam XE262H-10 flat tappet. and the intake is a Weiand 8010 made in USA, NOT Chinese. I also have a Holley 650 vacuum secondary carb to rebuild. I will be using Tim Meyers pistons. .020, but may have to wait for them to be stocked. Does anyone here have a set they want to sell? I will use stock heads I may get lucky and find early 400 heads minus thermactor humps. Time will tell.




I hope I can get this built for around 2500 and no more than 3000. Going to be close.
The 61 F100 I purchased is swapped to a 78 Bronco chassis and supposedly had a 400, but sadly it was a 351M. Now I am off to the races.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2021 | 07:04 PM
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Glad you were able to find a nice 400 crank. I've got a customer right now who's looking for one. I have a couple of 351M but no 400's. Actually I'm amazed that Scat or Eagle doesn't make a new stock replacement crank. Maybe someday.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 08:15 AM
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Subscribing...... I have enough spare parts laying around I may want to do something similar in my "free" time one of these days!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 09:02 AM
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I don't think that any 400 heads had much of a thermactor bump. The later ones after about 1975 were filled in around the guide boss but you'd have to flow test it to see if that really makes any difference. The intake port is the problem anyway on those heads.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 09:05 AM
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The thermactor bump can be ground off but later 400s had a raised exhaust port that makes them undesirable. Best bet would be 351C 2V heads.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 06:23 AM
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My 351M engine has the D5-A2A heads, 74.5 cc's and those are plentiful. My 400 will be used mainly for cruising and occasional 4x excursions and camping. I wont require lots of HP since it's a low rpm stump puller engine. However, I wouldn't mind a better flowing head either. I have found 1 cyl head in town D1AE-A1C, for cheap. now looking for it's long lost twin. If I end up using the D5 heads then I would port match and let it run.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 06:42 AM
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I don't think that it is possible to port the D5 to match the D1. On the D5 the port is filled in in the bowl down around the guide. This was probably done to keep the valve stem cooler. I should flow test a D5 to see if there is any real difference.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 06:45 AM
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I decided not to port the D5 heads, just to port match gaskets if at all needed, but am on the hunt for the early heads.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 06:52 AM
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I doubt that hunting for a set of early heads is worth the effort. They all have the same intake port so minor differences in the exhaust side flow won't make any real difference in power.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 07:05 AM
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Yup, the more research I do the more the A2A heads look like the best choice for my build. Reliability and cost is my biggest concern. Thanks for your input. I will post updates and pics with my progress.
 
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I looked on my computer after I got to the shop and I have a flow test of a D1AE head. It has new SI stainless valves and a fresh valve job but is otherwise stock:

INT
.050 30
100 61
200 134
300 175
400 198
500 202
600 203

Exh

.050 24
.100 50
.200 92
.300 129
.400 154
.500 170
.600 181

Looking at the flow numbers it's pretty clear where the work needs to be done. This is with a 2.040 intake valve diameter. To put the intake port numbers into perspective check out what a Chevy Vortec head does with a 1.94 intake valve. this was a brand new out of the box head with a stock valve and no port work. Typically they flow about 230 @ .500 but this one was about the best that I've ever seen.

.050 26
.100 58
.200 123
.300 188
.400 224
.500 240
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 01:14 PM
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Today I was doing a valve job on a set of the D5AE heads so I thought I'd give the exhaust port a flow test to see how it compares with the D1 head.

.050 22
.100 49
.200 84
.300 119
.400 138
.500 154
.600 166

Having the port filled in around the guide boss does hurt flow pretty much across the board from about 200 lift on up. The port never backs up or anything really bad and it still flows enough to easily keep up with the intake port.

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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 08:52 AM
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I have a set of fresh A2A heads, they should work fine for my needs.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 04:41 PM
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Today I went to the machine shop and checked the progress of the work, block is bored .028 and will be finish honed when the pistons arrive. The block was checked for square and decked. Cam bearings installed. They have a fresh set of D1AE heads they put aside for me. I will bring the correct valve springs for the XE262 cam. Looking good so far.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 05:32 PM
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have you gotten this back together yet? if so, how do you like that cam?
 
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