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Old Sep 11, 2021 | 04:41 PM
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Hey yall, new to the group. Just bought 2000 250, needs front end suspension work. Steering box for sure. What are the must do things before replacing tires. Thx.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2021 | 04:57 PM
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Oof. That is a loaded question. Describe the symptoms that make you think the front end needs suspension work so we can narrow it down for you.

Also, welcome to the forum!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2021 | 05:09 PM
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Also depends on what climate you're in, how many miles the rig has, if you have any maint records
 
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Old Sep 12, 2021 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Oof. That is a loaded question. Describe the symptoms that make you think the front end needs suspension work so we can narrow it down for you.

Also, welcome to the forum!
Thank you! So there's a lot of play in steering about 3-4 inches. There's a kluncking noise that you can hear and also feel under your feet especially going over bumps.. Also the truck has 294k miles.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2021 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PriusLover
Also depends on what climate you're in, how many miles the rig has, if you have any maint records
I live in Ohio. Truck has been around here since 2000. 294k. Front brakes and rotors good. Previous owners cared for the truck well but nothing was replaced in front. Play in steering is the most obvious issue.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jharpur
Thank you! So there's a lot of play in steering about 3-4 inches. There's a kluncking noise that you can hear and also feel under your feet especially going over bumps.. Also the truck has 294k miles.
Okay. There can be multiple causes of this. We usually check the following:
  1. Tie rod and drag link ends.
  2. Wheel bearings.
  3. Ball joints.
  4. Track bar bushings.
  5. Steering gear.
  6. Leaf spring bushings.
If none of these have ever been replaced in the truck's life so far, there is a good chance you will have to replace the majority of them. Jack the front end up then have a helper saw the steering wheel back and forth while you observe what is wobbling. Record a video if you can. Is your truck 4x4?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 07:08 PM
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Yup. At 300k I would suspect it needs everything. $1000 if you do it yourself, $2500-$3000 if your paying for it to be done.

Add sway bar end links to FTN's list for the clunking.

If your keeping the truck I'd suggest a Redhead or BlueTop steering gearbox. They cost a bit more but are well worth it.

You can probably get most of the steering play out with 2 of the above items. Check Ball Joints before buying tires. Pay for an alignment after fixing everything.

Have fun!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Okay. There can be multiple causes of this. We usually check the following:
  1. Tie rod and drag link ends.
  2. Wheel bearings.
  3. Ball joints.
  4. Track bar bushings.
  5. Steering gear.
  6. Leaf spring bushings.
If none of these have ever been replaced in the truck's life so far, there is a good chance you will have to replace the majority of them. Jack the front end up then have a helper saw the steering wheel back and forth while you observe what is wobbling. Record a video if you can. Is your truck 4x4?
Thank you so much!! Hi. Yes it's 4x4.
 
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Okay. There can be multiple causes of this. We usually check the following:
  1. Tie rod and drag link ends.
  2. Wheel bearings.
  3. Ball joints.
  4. Track bar bushings.
  5. Steering gear.
  6. Leaf spring bushings.
If none of these have ever been replaced in the truck's life so far, there is a good chance you will have to replace the majority of them. Jack the front end up then have a helper saw the steering wheel back and forth while you observe what is wobbling. Record a video if you can. Is your truck 4x4?
Thank you so much!!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 03:53 AM
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Yup. At 300k I would suspect it needs everything. $1000 if you do it yourself, $2500-$3000 if your paying for it to be done.

Add sway bar end links to FTN's list for the clunking.

If your keeping the truck I'd suggest a Redhead or BlueTop steering gearbox. They cost a bit more but are well worth it.

You can probably get most of the steering play out with 2 of the above items. Check Ball Joints before buying tires. Pay for an alignment after fixing everything.

Have fun!
Thank you! Yes I'm ordering redhead steering box.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kbeefy

Add sway bar end links to FTN's list for the clunking.
Good catch! I forgot about those.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jharpur
Thank you so much!!
You're welcome and good luck! There are a bunch of articles in the Tech Folder at the top of this forum that shows you how to work on the truck. Have a read through those.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 07:58 PM
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For some perspective, on my 350k 99 F350, here's what I had to replace in the front end:

-Sway bar end-links (one of mine was clunking)
-Steering box (went with redhead) and steering pump
-Tie rod
-Drag link
-Passenger side axle stub
-Did u-joints since I had to replace a stub. Might not have been needed
-Both front wheel bearings (one had bad needle bearing, other had bad wheel bearing)
-Brake calipers and pads (also new rotors to convert from E99 to L99)
-Axle stub/knuckle seals
-Installed the updated inner axle seals either side of the differential since I was in there
-Changed front diff fluid
-Alignment after it was all said and done.

...and that's just the front end!

You might not need all of that, but if your front end hasn't been worked on, given the year and mileage, don't be surprised if you need most of it. Make sure you go with quality parts and proper assembly technique so you never have to do this again.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 05:41 PM
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If you do end up needing a steering gear box, check out BlueTop.

BlueTop link: https://bluetopsteeringgears-com.3dcartstores.com/

Recent thread detailing the BlueTop gear: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-gear-box.html
 
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Old Sep 17, 2021 | 05:17 AM
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@Jharpur , how goes the repair?
 
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